[gxdata]

#2 what I would like is for all 3 to use a SINGLE rmtpdump exe rather than have to have a separate one for all 3, if it wasn't for the possibility of one or two being incompatible with a newer version I would suggest they simply looked for rtmpdump.exe


Well, that would be possible of course. In effect, I use just rtmpdump v2.3 - for p7 it is renamed as rtmpdump v2.2c (not its exact name, but you get the idea), for SBS it is called rtmpdump v2.2d.
I have confidence that v2.3 works OK for all 3 nappers.

With user settings, the programmer allows some flexibility to change, over time. The exact name and location of the rtmpdump file to be used is stored in a settings file. Its location can be secured so that inexperiened users don't kill the settings, or change them to make the application unuseable. I can understand why mce might be reluctant to take this approach, but it can be made foolproof.

If all 3 nappers expected to see rtmpdump.exe in the working folder (ie, there is none of the win32-2.2c stuff in the filename), then as a new rtmpdump is released and recommended, you would download it (for arguments' sake, let us say it is v2.3a) and name it as rtmpdump.exe, replacing the older file (which might actually be v2.2c).

Is this more than obvious?

[gxdata]

#1 Yep I know its there but it is not a STATIC setting it resets every time you close, and as I rarely if ever use the srts it add more clutter to the folder which although easily deleted would rather not have present in the first place. as to how I suggested be implemented I didn't mean by shortcut I meant in a style like PictureResizer (http://www.rw-designer.com/picture-resize) does where what the exe itself is named determines how it operates.


The user settings behave like (for example) the last size that the MS Word window was, which is 'remembered' when you next open it. So, if you change the options and save them, when you use the napper next week it will remember the settings that you saved.

With a commandline switch, you would make a shortcut that in effect determined the default captions option -

iVN /captions=ON
or if you preferred it,
iVN /captions=OFF

(I'm using a shorthand, not the actual stuff that would go into a shortcut - but it is super-easy, and saves mce having to compile 2 versions of each release).

Unfortunately, I can't insert or attach an image to illustrate this with a partial screenshot.

[vipher]

I've been away for a while. Good news is that I've just updated the Linux Script to combat the new changes made to iView. New script is v6.9 and it's available on the wiki. Thanks to Anywho and gxdata for figuring out what was done. I'll see about an OSX version tomorrow, it should be as simple as changing the rtmpdump binary.

[blood.eaglz]

saves mce having to compile 2 versions of each release).

my suggestion doesn't require 2 releases to be compiled all it requires is that at start up it parses its own name
if name = "iviewnapper.exe" then srt=on
if name = "iviewnapper-ns.exe" then srt = off

*of course "iveiwnapper" would be replaced with either the current version number or a wildcard.

[blood.eaglz]

If all 3 nappers expected to see rtmpdump.exe in the working folder (ie, there is none of the win32-2.2c stuff in the filename), then as a new rtmpdump is released and recommended, you would download it (for arguments' sake, let us say it is v2.3a) and name it as rtmpdump.exe, replacing the older file (which might actually be v2.2c).

Is this more than obvious?

Well considering that I included that exact Idea in my post Yes

#2 what I would like is for all 3 to use a SINGLE rmtpdump exe rather than have to have a separate one for all 3, if it wasn't for the possibility of one or two being incompatible with a newer version I would suggest they simply looked for rtmpdump.exe

but as had written there is the possibility that one or two of the nappers may NOT be compatible, and if the situation arose, like it has before, where you had to use a newer version for one it could cause all sorts of head aches, with multiple directories and debug woes.

[gxdata]

Well considering that I included that exact Idea in my post Yes

but as had written there is the possibility that one or two of the nappers may NOT be compatible, and if the situation arose, like it has before, where you had to use a newer version for one it could cause all sorts of head aches, with multiple directories and debug woes.

I wasn't being rude, sorry if it sounded so - after writing it, I thought that my explanation sounded a bit pedantic & detailed, hence the 'obvious' remark.
Actually, over the last year I have suggested a few things to mce - including the single rtmpdump.exe, probably - but his experience (and that of others here) with the changes of iView/SBS/Plus!7 over that time count for more than mine, so whatever the community can come up with is fine by me.

Others can take on board what you've written.

[mce]

blood.eaglz & gxdata

Yes something has to be done, it was supposed to be a simple little program that did one thing and worked well.

Sometimes I wonder if I achieved any of that. :)

1. I'll implement cross session settings (?) soon.

2. As new versions of the Nappers come out they get the latest rtmpdump that works for them at that time. Due to the way the other Nappers don't need much updating, they can seem like they are left behind.

If *someone* can tell me that the newest rtmpdump works on all the Nappers just fine it will save me a weekend of testing and speed up the process a bit.

3. Thanks gxdata for the 404 bug report, I'll fix it tonight if possible.

4. Regarding the focus lock problem, I haven't forgot about it, indeed it is a constant worry, but I will continue to look for a way to fix it.

[Ferret]

Something I have noticed is that the double hyphen crash seems to be back.
for example:
Four Corners 14/03/11 : BP: Billion Blowout
will not download correctly and the Subtitles files if they are zero bytes are not deleted.

[mce]

Version 20110315.

* Fix 404 error box for no .srt file.
* Subtitles state remembered between sessions.

[Edit]

Four Corners BP file OK on the Nappers.

[Anywho]

If *someone* can tell me that the newest rtmpdump works on all the Nappers just fine it will save me a weekend of testing and speed up the process a bit.

Currently no problems I've found with them using the latest RTMPdump (v2.3-r557). :)

Same goes for iViewFox plugin ;)

[blood.eaglz]

Great mce thanks

I have done some light testing on the other nappers and so far they are working perfectly with rtmpdump-win32-2.3r557.exe

edit: testing done so far
SBSnapper - partial downloads 5, full downloads 2, resumes 0. all at 1000k quality
p7napper - partial downloads 3, full downloads 1, resumes 0.

[Anywho]

Four Corners 14/03/11 : BP: Billion Blowout
will not download correctly and the Subtitles files if they are zero bytes are not deleted.

Yeah thanks for that one. The command prompt would squeeze its cheeks at that one... I'll have a go at it tonight if I get some more time. Latest would be tomorrow arvo.

[Ferret]

Looks like they've made further changes to the names in the XML - they've now stripped out the series names completely. :(

[vipher]

Looks like they've made further changes to the names in the XML - they've now stripped out the series names completely. :(

Yeah I've seen that. Thankfully it's not to hard to fix in the Linux & OSX script downloaders. I've already got a fix, but I'm also working on some other updates so it will be a few hours more before I upload an updated script.

Edit: Interestingly it also appears that none of the series indexes are gzipped anymore either.

[Anywho]

Something I have noticed is that the double hyphen crash seems to be back.
for example:
Four Corners 14/03/11 : BP: Billion Blowout
will not download correctly and the Subtitles files if they are zero bytes are not deleted.

Should be fixed now in v15.83 here (http://www.4shared.com/file/750EOTqx/iView_Downloader_v1583.html). The minimal version (with no required support files) you can find here (http://www.4shared.com/file/Am-P43h2/iView_Downloader_v1583-min.html).

[blood.eaglz]

4. Regarding the focus lock problem, I haven't forgot about it, indeed it is a constant worry, but I will continue to look for a way to fix it.

haven't used SBSnapper for quite some time so didn't realise it too has the focus lock, so if you manage to to find a fix, please also apply it to SBSnapper :)

*also have posted a guess as to why SBS new videos have the audio spike in the SBSnapper whirlpool thread

[vipher]

Some more updates to the Linux & OSX command line downloaders:
- Files are now saved with the actual episode name instead of the rather meaningless server name.
- Fix for the new JSON format (Series names being moved).
- Completed files are removed from the download list.

Linux v7.0 (http://localhostr.com/file/Veu7lO0/iView_Downloader_LINUX_V7.0.zip)
OSX v7.0 (http://localhostr.com/file/LI9tK5B/iView_Downloader_OSX_V7.0.zip)

The OSX one is untested since I don't have a Mac handy but the Linux one works for me on Fedora 14.

[Anywho]

Updated iView Downloader batch file to v15.84. Full version here (http://www.4shared.com/file/750EOTqx/iView_Downloader_v1584.html), minimal (batch file only) version here (http://www.4shared.com/file/Am-P43h2/iView_Downloader_v1584-min.html).

Also updated GetSRT (http://www.4shared.com/file/9slUCR8Y/iView_GetSRT.html) as well.

"Adds series name to filename."

[Yansky]

I've made another firefox extension to make it easier to extract the mp4 video from the flv files.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flvuncontainer/

It basically is just a front end for the "ffmpeg -i filename -vcodec copy -acodec copy newfilename" command.

Lemme know how it goes. I don't have a windows machine atm, so if anyone could confirm that it works ok on windows, that'd be great.

Note: it only works on Firefox 4.

[gxdata]

Updated iView Downloader batch file to v15.84. Full version here (http://www.4shared.com/file/750EOTqx/iView_Downloader_v1584.html), minimal (batch file only) version here (http://www.4shared.com/file/Am-P43h2/iView_Downloader_v1584-min.html).

Also updated GetSRT (http://www.4shared.com/file/9slUCR8Y/iView_GetSRT.html) as well.

"Adds series name to filename."

Excellent - thx once again.

[Anywho]

Excellent - thx once again.

It's my pleasure ;)

[JamesSquire]

Hey everyone... Just want to ask a quick question.
I had a quick look through this thread but I couldn't see the answer & I really didn't feel like reading through all 50 odd pages.

Anyway I know it's a total noob question so please except my apology now. :)

I can work the script (which is awesome may I say... Thanks Anywho) & I've used iViewnapper a few times before.

I'm just wondering for the shows that list with *** NO DOWNLOADS *** (trying to get Pohs kitchen for my misses). Is there any way to get these episodes? I know you can watch them from the abc website... I'm just assuming there's no way to get the index's for these shows or something & thus why they come up with *** No Downloads ***

Cheers

[Anywho]

I'm just wondering for the shows that list with *** NO DOWNLOADS *** (trying to get Pohs kitchen for my misses). Is there any way to get these episodes? I know you can watch them from the abc website... I'm just assuming there's no way to get the index's for these shows or something & thus why they come up with *** No Downloads ***

Yep, you've assumed right. There's no link to the indexes that provide a program download link for us to work with.

The indexes that do show for the program are only 2-minute introductions, snippets, or a commercial for the show. These just get marked as "*** No Downloads ***" because they're pointless to download. Quite often you'll find that those kinds programs are available only from the ABC Shop directly for buying and downloading.

[JamesSquire]

Thanks for the reply Anywho much appreciated.

I actually found the episodes on a newsgroup so I might just grab them from there. It was just one of those things I know you can play the episodes from off the website & I knew about iveiwnapper.
I just couldn't work out why they wouldn't list in it even though there on the website. And I started thinking there must be a way! hehe

Anyway thanks for the batch file dude... You're obviously ;) far better at writing them then me.

[blood.eaglz]

Yes it can get confusing as ABC actually has 3 different Video on Demand systems

1) iView
2) ABC video (the video found embedded in the ABC web pages, is seperate from iView, and as such is metered)
3) ABC store

with ABC video, quite often they have a downloadable version of at least the last episode or 2, however with a little knowledge you can generally get almost any video from ABC as they have a habit of leaving the videos on the server, and it appears that Poh's kitchen is no exception, simply copy this link, change the number in bold to the episode you want to download and hit go and a download dialog will appear *warning I have only checked a few ep numbers including 01
they worked but that is no guarantee all 40 will.

mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/pohskitchen/vodcast/pohskitchen_10_01_01.mp4

[JamesSquire]

Yes it can get confusing as ABC actually has 3 different Video on Demand systems

1) iView
2) ABC video (the video found embedded in the ABC web pages, is seperate from iView, and as such is metered)
3) ABC store

with ABC video, quite often they have a downloadable version of at least the last episode or 2, however with a little knowledge you can generally get almost any video from ABC as they have a habit of leaving the videos on the server, and it appears that Poh's kitchen is no exception, simply copy this link, change the number in bold to the episode you want to download and hit go and a download dialog will appear *warning I have only checked a few ep numbers including 01
they worked but that is no guarantee all 40 will.

mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/pohskitchen/vodcast/pohskitchen_10_01_01.mp4

LOL... Classic it works a treat.

Cheers for the help blood.eaglz

[mce]

iViewNapper Version 20110318.

* Adds series name to filename.

[Ferret]

For iViewNapperLite 20101218 to add the series name:

Go to line 63: " t2 = episode.b"
and change to " t2 = show.b & " - " & episode.b"

this will add the the series in front with a dash before the episode.

[blood.eaglz]

iViewNapper Version 20110318.

* Adds series name to filename.

Thanks mce, glad I don't have to sort out file names anymore :)

[mce]

iViewNapperLite Version 20110320.

* Adds series name to filename.
* Resume partial download works again.
* Now using RTMPDUMP V2.3r557.

Thanks goes to Ferret.

[trojan]

iViewFox 1.2.7 did fix the problems I was having.... but 1.2.8 is broken again for me.
It does not download anything and does not have the icon at the bottom of the firefox window....

w7/64
FF 3.6.15
Hostworks.

Cheers.

[spaceghost]

With iViewNapperLite (20110320) I get the following error:
"Script error
Line:39
Char:3
Error: Object doesn't support this properly or method
Code: 0
URL: file:.../ivnlite.vbs
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?"

Any ideas folks? Files are standard as extracted from zip file. Thanks.

[Yansky]

iViewFox 1.2.7 did fix the problems I was having.... but 1.2.8 is broken again for me.
It does not download anything and does not have the icon at the bottom of the firefox window....

w7/64
FF 3.6.15
Hostworks.

Cheers.

I can't seem to replicate your issue. If you're not seeing the icon, then I don't think the bug is in the hostin code. It's more likely in the very first bit of code that loads the extension.

Could you do me a favour? Could you install 1.2.8 again and then copy and paste in this thread any error messages that appear in the error console?

(You can open the error console from the Firefox tools menu).

[trojan]

thanks for the quick response.
It seems after I removed it completely then readded 1.2.8 it behaved itself.
Cheers ;)

[trojan]

Bugger, I spoke too soon. I have worked out how to replicate the original 1.2.8 problem. If I only have one window open iViewFox works fine but if I open something else in the first and iView in a 2nd window, the icon does not appear in the status bar and iview just plays normally and nothing is written to the error console.

Cheers.

[DaveTheMan]

Hi am new here and I am having some Problems with IViewFox.

1st When I download and says Complete where I put the File, There is No Video File to watch. Why does it do this

2nd Now I can't download anything with it as after the Dos Box gets Connected it just Exit's?

Please Help and I am using the most up to date Version

[Anywho]

1st When I download and says Complete where I put the File, There is No Video File to watch. Why does it do this


This might happen if there is actually no video file on ABC's host server (Akamai or Hostworks) to download or view.


2nd Now I can't download anything with it as after the Dos Box gets Connected it just Exit's?

As above and make sure there is not a file that is zero bytes in length with the name of the video you are trying to download. If a zero-byte file is there, then delete it and try again.

[UbuntuFan]

Some more updates to the Linux & OSX command line downloaders:
- Files are now saved with the actual episode name instead of the rather meaningless server name.
- Fix for the new JSON format (Series names being moved).
- Completed files are removed from the download list.

Linux v7.0 (http://localhostr.com/file/Veu7lO0/iView_Downloader_LINUX_V7.0.zip)
OSX v7.0 (http://localhostr.com/file/LI9tK5B/iView_Downloader_OSX_V7.0.zip)

The OSX one is untested since I don't have a Mac handy but the Linux one works for me on Fedora 14.

Hi Vipher,
Just coming out from lurk to thank you for all your work. We don't log on at every upgrade you do, but we certainly value them.
We'd be stuck without downloading ABC because of very old slow hardware.

[DaveTheMan]

This might happen if there is actually no video file on ABC's host server (Akamai or Hostworks) to download or view.



As above and make sure there is not a file that is zero bytes in length with the name of the video you are trying to download. If a zero-byte file is there, then delete it and try again.

There is a Video to Watch. There is no File in the Folder at all

[Anywho]

There is a Video to Watch. There is no File in the Folder at all

Which version of iViewFox are you using... v1.2.6, v1.2.7, or v1.2.8?

Which version of FireFox?

What OS... Windows? (you did mention the DOS box opening)

What ISP are you with, or if you know, which server host is ABC using to deliver the video to you? It's usually Hostworks if un-metered from your ISP, otherwise it's likely to be Akamai.

Hopefully that'll give enough info for Yansky when he drops by this thread ;)

[DaveTheMan]

Which version of iViewFox are you using... v1.2.6, v1.2.7, or v1.2.8?

Which version of FireFox?

What OS... Windows? (you did mention the DOS box opening)

What ISP are you with, or if you know, which server host is ABC using to deliver the video to you? It's usually Hostworks if un-metered from your ISP, otherwise it's likely to be Akamai.

Hopefully that'll give enough info for Yansky when he drops by this thread ;)

1.2.8 for IView Fox

Firefox is 3.6.15

I am using Windows XP SP1 at the Moment but Tommorow I am Getting a new Computer so that can Change.

ISP is Netspace

[Anywho]

1.2.8 for IView Fox

Firefox is 3.6.15

I am using Windows XP SP1 at the Moment but Tommorow I am Getting a new Computer so that can Change.

ISP is Netspace

Are you using the actual address:

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/

or are you using the iiNet portal to access iView? For example, do you see an iiNet page that "contains" the ABC iView page? If so, then you cannot use iViewFox through the iiNet portal. You can only use the actual http://www.abc.net.au/iview/ address.

[DaveTheMan]

Are you using the actual address:

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/

or are you using the iiNet portal to access iView? For example, do you see an iiNet page that "contains" the ABC iView page? If so, then you cannot use iViewFox through the iiNet portal. You can only use the actual http://www.abc.net.au/iview/ address.

I am using the Direct Link.

Link to Video I am trying to Download:

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/738159

[Yansky]

^^^

I am using the Actual Address

and this is the Video I am trying to Download:

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/program/738159

Try iViewNapper. See if that works for you.
http://users.on.net/~m.elliott/ivn/index.html

[Yansky]

Bugger, I spoke too soon. I have worked out how to replicate the original 1.2.8 problem. If I only have one window open iViewFox works fine but if I open something else in the first and iView in a 2nd window, the icon does not appear in the status bar and iview just plays normally and nothing is written to the error console.

Cheers.

Can you try out this new version for me and see if it works ok with multiple windows?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/iViewFox%40forboden.com.xpi

[spaceghost]

So is anyone running iViewNapperLite ok currently or are you also getting the script error (shown by me here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26343&postcount=531))?

[trojan]

Can you try out this new version for me and see if it works ok with multiple windows?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/iViewFox%40forboden.com.xpi

Yep that's got it ;)

Cheers mate!

[mce]

So is anyone running iViewNapperLite ok currently or are you also getting the script error (shown by me here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26343&postcount=531))?

I'm not seeing it.

I opened iVNL (20110320) and downloaded "7.30 -- 23-03-11" and it downloaded just fine.

I'd suggest that you have some security software that is blocking iVNL.

[HuCann]

I had a bit of a hack at your ivewnapperlite a while ago and have just added the new data format to get it going again.

http://pastebin.com/VHYyuuzG

Any comments?
PC

[MickJT]

So, I notice my AmigaOS version hasn't been update since the 30th of July last year. Thing is, I haven't needed to update it at all, it just keeps on working. Must be something special I do ;-)

[Anywho]

So, I notice my AmigaOS version hasn't been update since the 30th of July last year. Thing is, I haven't needed to update it at all, it just keeps on working. Must be something special I do ;-)

Not quite... I noticed it was broken when they were flipping the index file between compressed/uncompressed a couple of few weeks back.

Lately though, they seem to have stopped that tom-foolery.

[MickJT]

One thing I do differently is when scanning for .flv's and .mp4's, I don't really parse the file properly at all, I simply have it check for .mp4 and .flv, then backtrack until it hits a comma, quote or something that can't be part of a filename. So whatever formatting change they make to that particular area won't have any effect at all.

Where it can be done, I also don't rely on any particular ordering when parsing any other files.

[gxdata]

Examining the iView Player and comparing the JSON files, I can decipher most of the series/episode metadata, except for about 4 or 5.

Can someone take a guess at what the JSON elements (for Episodes) "k", "l", "m" represent?

eg, for Escape from Scorpion Island

"k":"Go to website"
"l":"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/abc3\/scorpionisland\/"
"m":"G"

"k" - ?

My guess is that "l" is the show's website (if the element is absent, there isn't one), and "m" = Classification - but I haven't encountered some 'missing' Episode element letters - c, o, p, t

Also, iView Player shows whether Captions are available (compare for example, Eps 1 and 14 of Scorpion Island) - and I can't see that in the JSON.

Any ideas?

[blood.eaglz]

a: Episode ID number
b: Episode Name

d: Description
e: Category
f: Date Added
g: Date Expires
h: Date Broadcast
i: File Size
j: Duration (in Seconds)
k: "go to website" Text for hyperlink
l: URL used in hyperlink

m: maturity classification (if missing then I think is the equivalent of "E" I've only seen it happen on news/current affairs)
n: file name

s: series screenshot

u: season number
v: episode number


http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?series=3134038,3159328,3130146,3121597,3142826,31 32936,2765543,3169248,3158494,2955433


my best guess as to why c doesn't exist is that c in the xml series section (a to f prior to the stepped episode info) contains the description of the series, and if memory serves me there have been shows where each episode merely contains the series description, ergo if episodes d does not exist use series c .

unable to find an indicator for captions, though judging by the slight delay by the iview player showing the availability and the fact that the caption files match the name given in n (except of course the extension) it appears it may simply do a search in http://www.abc.net.au/iview/captions/ for n.xml if matches then is available if not then no captions available

Anywho or mce can tell you for certain :)

anyway hope this helps

[gxdata]

k: "go to website" Text for hyperlink
l: URL used in hyperlink

m: maturity classification (if missing then I think is the equivalent of "E" I've only seen it happen on news/current affairs)

k, l seem logical - m with the "E" variant, is something I haven't seen*.

my best guess as to why c doesn't exist is that c in the xml series section (a to f prior to the stepped episode info) contains the description of the series, and if memory serves me there have been shows where each episode merely contains the series description, ergo if episodes d does not exist use series c .

Yes, logical enough


unable to find an indicator for captions, though judging by the slight delay by the iview player showing the availability and the fact that the caption files match the name given in n (except of course the extension) it appears it may simply do a search in http://www.abc.net.au/iview/captions/ for n.xml if matches then is available if not then no captions available

Yes, that is the way I have been getting them - the config.xml points to that location -

<param name="categories" value="xml/categories.xml"/>
<param name="classifications" value="xml/classifications.xml" />
<param name="captions" value="http://www.abc.net.au/iview/captions/"/>

* The classifications should be equivalent to "m" ?


Anywho or mce can tell you for certain :)

anyway hope this helps

Thanks - appreciate it. :D

[blood.eaglz]

m with the "E" variant, is something I haven't seen

You wouldn't technically see it as 'E' meaning exempt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia#News_and_current_affairs) is represented by m: being non-existant in the xml data (so skips straight from l to n), which is why when you look at a news program on the iview player the entire rating row is missing on the show info box.

[mce]

Anywho or mce can tell you for certain :)

I agree with what blood.eagles posted. (not that that means anything)

[gxdata]

I agree with what blood.eagles posted. (not that that means anything)

Too modest! Not that I have experience of the other platforms (Windows-only here), but you've done a great job. :D

[blood.eaglz]

I agree with what blood.eagles posted. (not that that means anything)

well personally it means I wasn't talking out my ass :p

though when you think about it it makes sense, this way they can add/remove/update captions at anytime, all without breaking the player or misleading viewers.

[gxdata]

More on these elements in the JSON - I decided to use the "h" = Broadcast Date one, and (experimenting a bit) found that 3 separate Series don't have it (!), so I need to code around the (.NET) KeyNotFoundException.

(It is 1April2011 - but I'm not joking:mad: )

the Series -
mister maker, raymond, five minutes more *

* Kids shows are convenient

[blood.eaglz]

are any of these episodes iview only? eg ep missed on tv but still put up on iview?, or iview exclusive runs of the show? as then there would be no broadcast date.

otherwise likely human error (yesterday I saw an episode of at the movies whose home site link pointed to message stick)

[Conest]

So is anyone running iViewNapperLite ok currently or are you also getting the script error (shown by me here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26343&postcount=531))?

I get this too. It had been fine up till now but I also note I have loaded IE9. Could this be an impact?? iViewNapper works fine.

[mce]

I get this too. It had been fine up till now but I also note I have loaded IE9. Could this be an impact?? iViewNapper works fine.

What are you doing to get this? What show are you trying to get?

[Yansky]

Some flash streaming server news:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/04/adobe-throws-in-towel-adopts-http-live-streaming-for-ios.ars

[gxdata]

Some flash streaming server news:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/04/adobe-throws-in-towel-adopts-http-live-streaming-for-ios.ars

So, will iView, SBS Player, etc change in the short-term (3-6 months)?

[gxdata]

Over a few months now, I have noticed that SBSNapper downloads quite slowly (and does not resume at all), whereas iViewNapper downloads very much faster.
When I try (something silly) starting iViewNapper when SBSNapper is already downloading, the latter grinds to a halt.

All of which leads up to this interesting conversation on the rtmpdump message thread -

> But when we use player
> from the site I can see that there is no NetStream.Pause.Notify and other commands
> from this sequence in the stream. So, behavior of the server is different for their player
> and for rtmpdump.

Then you really need to see why the stream is timing out in the first place.
Probably the server doesn't like the large buffersize that rtmpdump uses by default, and you'll need to use a smaller buffer (and thus download more slowly).

Perhaps changing the buffer size in one or other of the 'Nappers would be helpful for more successful downloads?

Of course, I'm neglecting factors like the server load, client connections, etc - but I thought it interesting.

[Yansky]

I've updated the Firefox extension (There was a bug making it not work in Firefox 3.6).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/iviewfox/versions/

[kindleportal]

yah have some problems but we can solve this problems to use Mozilla Firefox pick check it.

[gxdata]

Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?

[Anywho]

Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?

Not sure, but if it's HTML5*, then it would likely be H264. See Usage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#Usage) on this WikiPedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video) ;)

* Although this article (http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2010/12/03/3083642.htm) says it isn't HTML5

[Stream Recorder]

Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?
I know 2 kind of HTML5 videos: H.264 and WebM.

[gxdata]

Not sure, but if it's HTML5*, then it would likely be H264. See Usage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#Usage) on this WikiPedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video) ;)

* Although this article (http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2010/12/03/3083642.htm) says it isn't HTML5

Interesting - better info than I was seeing. I'll get someone to download the "app" (ugh!) from iTunes, and take a look.

Yes, I had seen some chat about the 2 formats in contention for HTML5 video, as mentioned by Stream Recorder

[Conest]

What are you doing to get this? What show are you trying to get?

I am simply running the .hta file. A blank iViewNapperLite window with empty frames comes up and then the "Script Error" message appears. It does not get to the point where shows are listed. As indicated before I have just loaded IE9 which appeared to be when the issue started. I had been running version 20110320 successfully prior. Straight iViewNapper works fine.

Text of the error message follows.

An error has occurred in the script on this page.

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs

Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

[Anywho]

I am simply running the .hta file. A blank iViewNapperLite window with empty frames comes up and then the "Script Error" message appears. It does not get to the point where shows are listed. As indicated before I have just loaded IE9 which appeared to be when the issue started. I had been running version 20110320 successfully prior. Straight iViewNapper works fine.

Text of the error message follows.

An error has occurred in the script on this page.

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs

Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

I'm seeing this too. Windows7/64-SP1. See this screencap (http://i.imgur.com/13ffL.png) ;)

Just doesn't get to anything other than what's in that screencap.

[mce]

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs

This is the first time iVNL interacts with the JSON file, the Object error means that there is no JSON file to interact with.

When you get this error, if you guys could put the following URLs into the browser or use WGET and see if anything is returned, I suspect it isn't.

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=a-l
http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=m-z

If these return blank then it is a problem at iView.

I myself am experiencing an error in line 102, and will check on that later.

[edit]

A Whirlpool user "Complete Looney" has suggested a fix, which I will implement later today, look out for an update.

[Anywho]

This is the first time iVNL interacts with the JSON file, the Object error means that there is no JSON file to interact with.

Actually there is - I put a "MsgBox(myJSON)" in the code and this is the result (http://i.imgur.com/CtR3d.png).


When you get this error, if you guys could put the following URLs into the browser or use WGET and see if anything is returned, I suspect it isn't.

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=a-l
http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=m-z

If these return blank then it is a problem at iView.

No, they always work - everytime.

I myself am experiencing an error in line 102, and will check on that later.

Good... Serves you right :p


[edit]
A Whirlpool user "Complete Looney" has suggested a fix, which I will implement later today, look out for an update.

It better work... Or you're fired :D

[gxdata]

At The Movies Series 7- OK with the Batch Downloader, but iViewNapper fails with an error -

the given key was not in the dictionary

This error occurs when fetching the Series (ie, it's not an absent Episode) - seems like it is the missing Series description element in the JSON file?

[mce]

At The Movies Series 7- OK with the Batch Downloader, but iViewNapper fails with an error -

This error occurs when fetching the Series (ie, it's not an absent Episode) - seems like it is the missing Series description element in the JSON file?

Blame ABC.

ABC must be coding this stuff by hand because if they were using a half decent CMS, it would not allow bad data through.

P.S. Anywho

When fixed, I'm asking for a pay rise. :)

[Edit]

I've applied the "No description" fix to both 'Nappers.

[gxdata]

Blame ABC.

ABC must be coding this stuff by hand because if they were using a half decent CMS, it would not allow bad data through.

Yeh, I'm amazed at some of the boo-boos, that must be due to someone's hand-coding.
Probably a different team/section, but their RSS feeds are similarly error-prone.

But I guess we need to error trap for null data right through the iView JSON.

[mce]

Both iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to Version 20110429 and are available on their websites

[Anywho]

Both iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to Version 20110429 and are available on their websites

Still broken... Screenshot here (http://i.imgur.com/D5bXZ.jpg). :(

[mce]

Running W7 x64 no service packs, IE 8.0 here and don't see that problem.

[gxdata]

Still broken... Screenshot here (http://i.imgur.com/D5bXZ.jpg). :(

You're referring only to Lite, with IE9 browser?

The 'full' 'Napper gets the ATM ep12 for me.:) but I haven't tried Lite yet (I have Win7-64, all SPs, and IE9).

[Edit1]
My error is -
Line 281, char 3, permission denied, code 0
- different than others have been reporting, which I assume is due to UAC as I run in normal mode (not full Admin)?
Obviously the VBScript is running but I haven't tried tracing where this is happening.

[Edit2]
OK, red herring above - unblocking the .VBS gets back to an error similar to previously reported -
Line 45, Char 3, Object doesn't support this property or method, Code 0
Continuing just gives a blank window in the .HTA

[Anywho]

You're referring only to Lite, with IE9 browser?


Yeah. I'm pretty sure that IE9 is the cause of the IVNLite not working properly. I reckon MS have applied their infinite wisdom to it :eek:

[mce]

If someone has time, can they play with IE9 security zone and/or privacy settings and let me know how that goes.

[Anywho]

If someone has time, can they play with IE9 security zone and/or privacy settings and let me know how that goes.

I've tried using compatibility settings, turned down security to lowest (all zones) and allowed "Active Content to run on CD's" and "My Computer". Still same result.

[Anywho]

Letting the debugger run with IVNLite gives these two attached screencaps of the dialogs.

[st170x]

www.abc.net.au/iview webpage & iviewnapper full not working since Thursday 28th. Iview on the ipad has been working fine. Been lots of MS updates everyday past couple weeks for win7. Went back to IE8 from IE9 with Windows 7 & www.abc.net.au/iview now works again, but iviewnapper screen comes up but cannot fetch data for episodes. Put the latest version on from yesterday & still the same. Seems that the ABC may have changed things again. I have two windows 7 machines & one XP & all currently wont load the fetch data. Hope this helps.

[Anywho]

Went back to IE8 from IE9 with Windows 7 & www.abc.net.au/iview now works again
You need a new flash player for IE9. I'm using Adobe "Square" for Win7/64bit and it works fine.

iviewnapper screen comes up but cannot fetch data for episodes. Put the latest version on from yesterday & still the same.
Are you talking about the full version or the "lite" version? The full version is working fine (http://i.imgur.com/VBjSX.png)!

[st170x]

I am taliking about the full version from last month & also yesterdays update. It won't fetch the index to show the programs, just retries until it shows try 5 & sits there. Maybe a server issue in Adelaide I assume that each city has its own, don't know, but the problem has existed since Thursday. The Iview works ok through the ABC site & also on the IPAD.

[Anywho]

I am taliking about the full version from last month & also yesterdays update. It won't fetch the index to show the programs, just retries until it shows try 5 & sits there. Maybe a server issue in Adelaide I assume that each city has its own, don't know, but the problem has existed since Thursday. The Iview works ok through the ABC site & also on the IPAD.

No, I'm in Adelaide so it's not "state" specific. As I showed in that screenshot, I am not having any problems with the full version (the latest or the one before it either).

Which ISP are you with? Are you sure your firewall settings (modem and/or software) are letting through RTMP connections on ports 1935, 443 or 80? (Hmmm... Even then, you should still be getting an index from iView)

[st170x]

I managed to make it work at last, but it does not work every time I fired up the program, & will just go through to fetch try 5. But then fire it up again & it sometimes works so must be an internet issue probably with TPG. Thanks for confirming that you are also in Adelaide & that it was working fine for you.

[Anywho]

I managed to make it work at last, but it does not work every time I fired up the program, & will just go through to fetch try 5. But then fire it up again & it sometimes works so must be an internet issue probably with TPG. Thanks for confirming that you are also in Adelaide & that it was working fine for you.

There might be an issue with TPG and iView. There's two or three people mentioning issues (http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Message.aspx?b=98&m=12477&ps=50&dm=2) with that combination (see near bottom of that list at 29Apr2011).

[mce]

I did some tests on a Virtual machine and if one uninstalls IE9 then iVNL works perfectly, whereas before the uninstall it would fail.

Something to do with the way AJAX has been implemented in IE9 and changing all the security settings in the world wouldn't fix things.

Unsure how to proceed with this now, other that to use WGET for Windows to do the fetching.

Was trying to avoid extra EXEs and all that.

[gxdata]

I've tried using compatibility settings, turned down security to lowest (all zones) and allowed "Active Content to run on CD's" and "My Computer". Still same result.

I did similar yesterday, not very systematically - no joy.

Is a different XMLDom used with IE9, perhaps? That shouldn't be a problem though as I see IE9 uses both this one -

Name XML DOM Document
Publisher Microsoft Corporation
Status Enabled
File date ‎Saturday, ‎20 ‎November ‎2010, ‏‎8:19 PM
Version 8.110.7601.17514

and also 6.0 and 3.0 versions

[Edit2]
I tried setting Compatibility View ON for ALL 'sites' but that doesn't fix the problem, either.
[Edit3]
Not much reported about problems with HTA apps, but this post reckons there's a problems introduced with IE9 -
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/iewebdevelopment/thread/ea80e95a-6ac4-43d9-be45-364b6ce6088d

[gxdata]

You need a new flash player for IE9. I'm using Adobe "Square" for Win7/64bit and it works fine.


You're using the 64-bit browser? The default browser on Win7, 64-bit is the 32-bit one (even with IE9), isn't it?

[Anywho]

You're using the 64-bit browser? The default browser on Win7, 64-bit is the 32-bit one (even with IE9), isn't it?

Nope. Win7-Pro/64bit/SP1, default IE9 is 64bit (http://i.imgur.com/MggL8.png) on mine - there is no 32bit version on it at all.

[Anywho]

I did some tests on a Virtual machine and if one uninstalls IE9 then iVNL works perfectly, whereas before the uninstall it would fail.

Unsure how to proceed with this now, other that to use WGET for Windows to do the fetching.

What about seeing if it's a JSON format problem? Maybe try some hard-coded strings and see if it's just the "iView" JSON format or if the "For Each" is just plain busted.

[gxdata]

What about seeing if it's a JSON format problem? Maybe try some hard-coded strings and see if it's just the "iView" JSON format or if the "For Each" is just plain busted.

A few hours ago, I commented out the first For Each and found the next one (ca line 60) caused the same error.

[gxdata]

Nope. Win7-Pro/64bit/SP1, default IE9 is 64bit (http://i.imgur.com/MggL8.png) on mine - there is no 32bit version on it at all.

:confused:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2009/05/29/q-a-64-bit-internet-explorer.aspx

Q: Why isn't 64bit IE the default browser? Why can't I set the 64bit version of IE as the default browser?
A: This was an explicit choice made by the IE team, which may change at some point in the future. The problem is that users might inadvertently get "stuck" using the 64bit version and not realize it. This might cause some problems.

Q: Why? What does not work properly with 64bit IE?
A: Browser addons, including BHOs, Toolbars, and ActiveX controls, must generally be the same bitness as IE itself. So, if you are running a 64bit version of IE, any site that uses, say, Adobe Flash, isn't going to work until you install the 64bit version of the addon. Sadly, almost no browser addons are currently available in 64bit versions, although that's somewhat likely to change in the future as 64bit Windows becomes more prevalent.

[mce]

I have done many tests and either the JSON parsing or the FOR EACH interpretation(?) in IE9 on this object is broken.

Specifying items directly, like myJSON.[0].a will yield results, but FOR EACH is not picking up the (umm, how do I phrase this!) separate entities required for the traversal of the set, which works in IE8 but not IE9.

[Anywho]

:confused:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2009/05/29/q-a-64-bit-internet-explorer.aspx

Man, that's so old it's got furry "bits" :D

I'd say things have changed now that SP1 is out. When I first got Win7 it was 32bit (IE8?), but SP1 (IE9) only gave me 64bit.

I have done many tests and either the JSON parsing or the FOR EACH interpretation(?) in IE9 on this object is broken.

Specifying items directly, like myJSON.[0].a will yield results, but FOR EACH is not picking up the (umm, how do I phrase this!) separate entities required for the traversal of the set, which works in IE8 but not IE9.

I'd say they changed the FOR EACH or else object handling has been screwed up. (I know they've got a new Jscript engine in IE9)

I was thinking (hoping) that maybe you could just get the JSON stuff from iView and maybe coerce the JSON into something that IE9 (and others) can comprehend (would JScript or JavaScript do that for you?)... But I think that may turn into a nightmare eventually.

[mce]

Currently looking into this:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288325%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Seems IE9 and possibly IE8 had different compatibility modes.

The following meta tag may be needed in the head section of the .hta file.

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=4"> <!-- IE5 mode -->

[gxdata]

Currently looking into this:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288325%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Seems IE9 and possibly IE8 had different compatibility modes.

The following meta tag may be needed in the head section of the .hta file.

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=4"> <!-- IE5 mode -->


I read that but got confused by some of the community comments.
Inserted the meta tag (just after title), same error result from the VBS.
It seems ridiculous that For Each could cause a problem (but I will try a little VBS that just iterates some other object/collection, without the complication of JSON code).

I have seen code that explicitly loads an HTA file with MSHTA.exe, rather than double-clicking (which does what? processes it with the default Microsoft browser I assume).
[edit1]
I tried a (remnant) 2005-dated MSHTA.EXE (the one in Win7-64's \windows\system32\ is v9.00.8112.16421, dated 2011) and got a wrong entry-point error in version.dll, but I might fetch another mshta.exe from a machine with ie8 installed, and see if I can get some progress.
[edit2]
Using another mshta.exe (from WinXP Sp3 with IE8 = v8.0.6001.18702), but the command "mshta iviewnapperlite.hta" doesn't show me any visible response. I thought it would.

[gxdata]

More on the IE internals - this might be worth a read:
Proper Content-Type Header Syntax
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2011/04/22/developer-tools-console-warning-sec7113-when-css-is-not-applied-due-to-bad-content_2d00_type-header.aspx
(posted 22April2011)

[orpheus]

Downloaded the ivewfox 1.3.0 today.

Not working.

I have Firefox 4.0 on an imac running osx 10.5.8.

Tried to download Dr Who episode getting the "save to" screen but was followed by a terminal message as follows (user name changed to protect the innocent):

"Last login: Sun May 1 21:40:58 on console
/Users/******/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
[Imac:~] ******% /Users/******/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022
/Users/******/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command: line 2: 272 Trace/BPT trap "/Users/******/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/rtmpdump" -r "rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net////flash/playback/_definst_/doctorwho_11_06_01.mp4" -a "ondemand?auth=daEbjb9cha6cuancXd9dbdSaWbSbjbJdeay-bnVuJn-8-slm_yEzpF&aifp=v001" -o "/Users/******/Movies/Iview/Doctor Who Series 6 Episode 1 The Impossible Astronaut.mp4" -m "120" -W "http://www.abc.net.au/iview/images/iview.jpg"
logout

[Process completed]

Same thing happened with other programmes.

Any suggestions?

[spaceghost]

Been away so just catching up... Downloaded the latest version of iViewNapperLite (20110429) and confirming that still doesn't work for me/ same errors as others have described (Vista 32bit, latest SP/patches, IE9).

Glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this at least. Though I was going nuts after trying all sorts of things ;-) Will try uninstalling IE9 as a workaround in the interim (know that we know it is involved and as I hardly use it and only upgraded to be more secure from an MS perspective!)

[gxdata]

Downloaded the ivewfox 1.3.0 today.

Not working.

Any suggestions?

iView was troublesome yesterday - could not download anything, using iVN / BDL - so try again, today.

[gxdata]

Trouble ahead?
Reading that Dec 2010 article about the iView iPad app - linked to (by Anywho ?) again, I see this statement -
We're looking into doing an HTML version of iView, however we're waiting until ABC TV websites move to the new WCMS (content management system), which won't happen until later next year. At the moment we're happy with the usability of the Flash site and it scales well to big screens in a way that is hard to achieve with HTML alone.
It's the 'new WCMS' that is the problem.

[mce]

I've done more digging with iVNL problems and for some reason the VBScript side of IE9 is not working the same as IE8.

Javascript seems to pass all tests.

For IE8 = Version 5.8.7600.16546 (Works)

For IE9 = Version 5.8.7601.16978 (Don't Work)

How do these compare to others out there???

I may have to convert the VBScript over to Javascript.

[Edit]

vbscript.dll can be found in c:\windows\system32.

Right click vbscript.dll > Properties > Details > File Version

[gxdata]

I've done more digging with iVNL problems and for some reason the VBSript side of IE9 is not working the same as IE8.

Javascript seems to pass all tests.

For IE8 = Version 5.8.7600.16546 (Works)

For IE9 = Version 5.8.7601.16978 (Don't Work)

How do these compare to others out there???

I may have to convert the VBScript over to Javascript.

Where do we see these version numbers? Tools > Manage Add-ons?

[edit]
ok, now that we're clear, my vbscript.dll is the same versin as mce's (I have IE9 installed and working; running IE9 as 32-bit always; Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit)

[gxdata]

Off-Topic (codecs problem), but I'm getting desparate. :mad:

I have no problem with VLC, Windows Media Player playing MP4 and FLV (and other video formats I commonly look at), but Windows Media Center for Windows 7 just will not play either of these two formats.

I can drop a WMV file into the library folder in WMC that contains FLV and one MP4, and that is the only file that I can view - otherwise I get the unhelpful message "Cannot Play Video" in the Windows Media Center.

I've searched this sites forums, searched a few specialist WMC sites, and searched the web more widely - nix.
Also tried Win7Codecs (Shark007) with a range of settings - again no joy.

Can someone point me to a solution or site that can walk me through this?

[spaceghost]

Off-Topic (codecs problem), but I'm getting desparate. :mad:

...Also tried Win7Codecs (Shark007) with a range of settings - again no joy.

Maybe these threads will lead you in turn to a solution...

Seven Forums: _http://www.sevenforums.com/media-center/71612-flv-wmc.html

Australian Media Center forums: _http://www.pcmediacenter.com.au/forum/topic/42897-codec-woes-with-sharkys-007re-subtitles-flv-files/

Shark007 forums: _http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-MC-and-native-codecs

May work for Win7: _http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=114219

[blood.eaglz]

Off-Topic (codecs problem), but I'm getting desparate. :mad:
I've searched this sites forums, searched a few specialist WMC sites, and searched the web more widely - nix.
Also tried Win7Codecs (Shark007) with a range of settings - again no joy.

Can someone point me to a solution or site that can walk me through this?

I don't know if there is a great deal of difference between WMC for Vista and WMC for Win7, but I can say that iView Remuxed MP4s work for me using Vista WMC.

I currently have DivX codec set to decode the AVC (H264) video streams and am using K-lite codec pack set to libavcodec to decode the AAC audio (this is a global set up so all players using external codecs use this combination for these types of streams)

you could try that combination, also you could try this it's the codec tweak tool that is included in K-lite (http://www.codecguide.com/download_other.htm), it can be used stand alone with the current codecs installed, and will allow you to set the default codecs used. I had to use it (from within k-lite install) to override a nokia codec which was forcing itself over the DivX codecs, and stuffing up the videos.

[gxdata]

thanks blood.eaglz, spaceghost - i'll try some of those things. I'm very ignorant when it comes to configuring codecs.:confused:

I (thought I had) tried everything I saw on the Shark007 discussions, yesterday.

Some posts I have seen (somewhere) say that WMC "just works" for FLV, MP4 in the USA with some add-in that is Microsoft-supplied. A couple of Aussies were a bit p1ssed off about that.

[Edit]
I got it going – more 4rse than class:

Used Shark007 Win7Codecs. When I uninstalled the prior version, I apparently didn’t even have the 64-bit ("x64 Components”) installed.


Anyway, I then installed the 32-bit (v2.8.5), then the 64-bit (v2.8.8) versions of Win7Codecs (such a messy website, so difficult to understand what is necessary).


Ran the Shark007 Setup Tool as Admin. Used the SUGGESTED settings. (also, an ugly and un-intuitive utility)


Located a FLV file (just using Windows Explorer, any one). Right-click, Open With – chose the Windows 7 Media Center, and it played OK.


Went into the WMC in the normal way – found that my previously-unplayable videos in the Pictures & Videos Library were showing up as thumbnails and now play OK.


I have 2 Windows Media Players (32, 64-bit) available now. My VLC Media Player is still the default for MP4 videos.


Prior to that sequence, I used the K-Lite tool to clean up missing codecs in my registry, but didn't do much more.

So I'm happy enough, but not really much wiser.

[gxdata]

Off-Topic again
iView and Plus!7 occasionally have the same shows, and comparing FLV and MP4 for size and with MediaInfo reveals that FLV is 3 times the size of the iView MP4, but they are both 640x360 resolution.
Why is that?

[blood.eaglz]

Off-Topic again
iView and Plus!7 occasionally have the same shows, and comparing FLV and MP4 for size and with MediaInfo reveals that FLV is 3 times the size of the iView MP4, but they are both 640x360 resolution.
Why is that?

simply their method of encoding.

Plus7 uses a more basic form of H264 encoding, that requires a higher bitrate to deliver the quality you see (though no where near as high as VP6 would have to go), while abc uses a more complex method which allows them to pack as high a quality with a much lower bitrate which while resulting in a smaller file requires more processing power to both encode on their end and a bit more vs Plus 7 to decode on our end, at least this is how I understand it. (look up CABAC, this is the main difference).

[gxdata]

simply their method of encoding.

Plus7 uses a more basic form of H264 encoding, that requires a higher bitrate to deliver the quality you see (though no where near as high as VP6 would have to go), while abc uses a more complex method which allows them to pack as high a quality with a much lower bitrate which while resulting in a smaller file requires more processing power to both encode on their end and a bit more vs Plus 7 to decode on our end, at least this is how I understand it. (look up CABAC, this is the main difference).

You're a mine of information - thanks for that. I'll read up on the CABAC encoding (started with Wikipedia).

[orpheus]

iView was troublesome yesterday - could not download anything, using iVN / BDL - so try again, today.

Tried again today.

Not working again. Same message.

Any other suggestions? :(

[orpheus]

Replaced hard drive and operating system recently. Maybe the script I entered into terminal when I first downloaded the add on needs to be re-entered. But I can't remember what it was.

Can someone remind me.:)

[Anywho]

Can someone remind me.:)

I think you're looking for the incantation in this post (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/use-iview-abc-australia-downloaders-p23022.html#post23022) ;)

[orpheus]

I think you're looking for the incantation in this post (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/use-iview-abc-australia-downloaders-p23022.html#post23022) ;)

Thanks Anywho.

I hate to be a pain but I'm getting a file not found message for the link chrome://iviewfox/content/ohHai.html.

[Anywho]

Thanks Anywho.
I hate to be a pain but I'm getting a file not found message for the link chrome://iviewfox/content/ohHai.html.

Bah! Try this:

Plus7Fox:
chmod a+x /Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxxx.Default\ User/extensions/Plus7Fox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/*
iViewFox
chmod a+x /Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxxx.Default\ User/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/*

Replace:
username with your login name.

I've got no idea how you do it on the Mac (App Window or something?), but you need to do it from the command line interface.

xxxxxxxx.Default with whatever it is on your system.

(See here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/use-iview-abc-australia-downloaders-p25098.html#post25098) for more info)

[Anywho]

I hate to be a pain but I'm getting a file not found message for the link chrome://iviewfox/content/ohHai.html.

Another way is to type about:config in FF's URL bar and then enter iViewFox.firstRun for the search term. Change the "value" to true - double-click usually works or else right-click the value use "Toggle" to change it there. Exit FF and then go to the iView site again... See if that works (should do it automatically for you I think).

[Yansky]

edit: I think I messed up the chmod stuff in the iviewfox/plus7 code. I only gave premission to the b.command file instead of the whole directory to include the rtmpdump executable.

[Anywho]

You shouldn't need to run the chmod manually anymore. The extension should do it automatically on first install or on update.

That's what I was thinking.

Anywho, here's the 1.3.1 source if you want to have a squiz: http://pastebin.com/mEp02MXs


He has the 1.3.0 version. That "auto" stuff was added before then wasn't it? Anyway, the original query was here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28416&postcount=605)... That's not the Mac 32/64bit thing again is it?

[Yansky]

He has the 1.3.0 version. That "auto" stuff was added before then wasn't it? Anyway, the original query was here (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28416&postcount=605)... That's not the Mac 32/64bit thing again is it?

Oh no, that's a dynamic library issue from my compile of the source. Not sure what library he's missing. I don't think its an SSL library issue because I used PolarSSL as the SSL library and that's a static library AFAIK. I wonder if it's a zlib library issue?

Anyway, here is the updated extension with the chmod fixed: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/iviewfox/versions/

[gxdata]

I'm getting an AUTHENTICATE_LOAD_ERROR - 203.xx.xxx.xxx Hostworks when trying to view the Nightly News, 7May on the iView Player @ 6:10PM today, AEST.
The (various) downloaders won't work with News or Insiders (which is why I tried the Player, of course).

Is that a usual error? I haven't seen an Auth error before.

[edit]
Ignore - 15 minutes later, everything works again. My OzSpeedtest DL rate was a little low, but it must have been a glitch at iView server that caused the inability to DL from iView.

[orpheus]

Guys,

Downloaded v1.3.2.

Still not working.

This message appears in a terminal - 80 x 24 window:


"Last login: Tue May 10 16:17:30 on ttys000
/Users/********/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
[Imac:~] ********% /Users/*******/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022
/Users/********/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command: line 2: 13525 Trace/BPT trap "/Users/*******/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/rtmpdump" -r "rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net////flash/playback/_definst_/drwhogreatest_11_01_01.mp4" -a "ondemand?auth=daEd3aIchdTczc9cXaYalbEaGb_dUbEb8bF-bnYnJn-8-okp_yHwpK&aifp=v001" -o "/Users/********/Movies/Iview/Doctor Who's Greatest Moments Cutdowns Episode 1 The Daleks.mp4" -m "120" -W "http://www.abc.net.au/iview/images/iview.jpg" -z
logout

[Process completed]"

[Yansky]

Guys,

Downloaded v1.3.2.

Still not working.

This message appears in a terminal - 80 x 24 window:


"Last login: Tue May 10 16:17:30 on ttys000
/Users/********/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
[Imac:~] ********% /Users/*******/Documents/Downloaded\ files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command ; exit;
dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022
/Users/********/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/b.command: line 2: 13525 Trace/BPT trap "/Users/*******/Documents/Downloaded files/mozilla/extensions/iViewFox@forboden.com/rtmpdump/rtmpdump" -r "rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net////flash/playback/_definst_/drwhogreatest_11_01_01.mp4" -a "ondemand?auth=daEd3aIchdTczc9cXaYalbEaGb_dUbEb8bF-bnYnJn-8-okp_yHwpK&aifp=v001" -o "/Users/********/Movies/Iview/Doctor Who's Greatest Moments Cutdowns Episode 1 The Daleks.mp4" -m "120" -W "http://www.abc.net.au/iview/images/iview.jpg" -z
logout

[Process completed]"

Hi, sorry I haven't had time to fix it properly. I'll do it in the next few days. In the meantime try this one: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/iViewFox%40forboden.com.xpi

[spaceghost]

Do Nine and Ten networks use a different streaming standard/protocol to the others? Is that why there doesn't seem to be any download programs for them?

[Yansky]

Do Nine and Ten networks use a different streaming standard/protocol to the others? Is that why there doesn't seem to be any download programs for them?

Should be fairly easy to do one for Channel 10's site: http://ten.com.au/watch-tv-episodes-online.htm

The Channel 9 site uses Silverlight which makes things a bit hard.

Anywho, MCE, I had a quick look at the Channel 10 site with Firebug and it looks fairly easy to replicate. Here's the details:


POST http://api.v2.movideo.com/rest/media/107549/smil?token=ec93fe1d-199c-4f41-811b-b2d5819141e5
responseXML:
<smil>
<head>
<meta base="rtmpe://159.rtmpe.movideo.com/ondemand">
<meta name="id" content="107549">
<meta name="auth" content="auth=daEbnaHcIdcdzaFdxbda8cqcqatawcvcVdm-bn1mp9-4q-EnoFEqDFFnky&amp;aifp=9000&amp;slist=22/media/107549/">
<meta name="debugUrl" content="http://api.v2.movideo.com/rest/media/107549/smil?token=ec93fe1d-199c-4f41-811b-b2d5819141e5&amp;&amp;auth=daEbnaHcIdcdzaFdxbda8cqcqatawcv cVdm-bn1mp9-4q-EnoFEqDFFnky&amp;aifp=9000&amp;slist=22/media/107549/">
</head>
<body>
<switch>
<video src="mp4:22/media/107549/672000-512x288.mp4" system-bitrate="800000" encoding-profile-name="Flash Fast DSL - 16:9 800000" height="288" width="512"></video>
<video src="mp4:22/media/107549/272000-512x288.mp4" system-bitrate="400000" encoding-profile-name="TEN Flash - 16:9 400000" height="288" width="512"></video>
<video src="mp4:22/media/107549/168000-512x288.mp4" system-bitrate="200000" encoding-profile-name="TEN Flash - 16:9 200000" height="288" width="512"></video>
</switch>
</body>
</smil>

[mce]

On a quick look, it looks a lot like SBS.

I'll have a look at it later on.

[gxdata]

ABC iView messageboards, 18May:
... please know that we are working on improving our service for users on lower speeds in the near future by offering adaptive bitrate streaming, so stay tuned for an update.
Cheers,
Mod.

[Yansky]

edit: nm. I got confused by rtmpdsrv

[gxdata]

A coding question:

The CC (.SRT) file for Peep Show S7/5 is defective. It has an unclosed literal string about 4 lines into the XML file.

It's located at

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/captions/peepshow_11_07_05.xml

For future reference, how can I directly download the XML file which is at a known URL - even if it has an error?

What I had been using (in .NET) was to read into a streamreader with HttpWebResponse.GetResponseStream
or
to use a small commandline downloader that uses http protocol and a Get.

Both of these methods error at the same location.

[Yansky]

A coding question:

The CC (.SRT) file for Peep Show S7/5 is defective. It has an unclosed literal string about 4 lines into the XML file.

It's located at

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/captions/peepshow_11_07_05.xml

For future reference, how can I directly download the XML file which is at a known URL - even if it has an error?

What I had been using (in .NET) was to read into a streamreader with HttpWebResponse.GetResponseStream
or
to use a small commandline downloader that uses http protocol and a Get.

Both of these methods error at the same location.

Maybe you could use cURL to download it: http://curl.haxx.se

[Yansky]

If anyone on windows has some free time, the devs for MediaPortal are looking for testers for the new iView plugin: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/onlinevideos-244/abc-iview-91836/index3.html#post753005

[gxdata]

Maybe you could use cURL to download it: http://curl.haxx.se

Thanks - I will try it.

[gxdata]

With iViewNapper (v20110429), I have noticed that the Episode descriptions are minimal, for some shows only.
Blood, Sweat and Takeways is an example (there are many others).

Its description (to the left of the image) is -
(2011-06-15) [MP4]

If iVN's Debug is switched on, the saved file 'Blood, Sweat And Takeaways.JSON' does contain a lengthy description - which matches the iView Player's episode description:

Six young fast food junkies travel to South East Asia to see just what's involved in producing the food they take for granted. They must catch, harvest and process food products that are eaten every day in the UK.

Can that be fixed up, at the next release, mce ?

[mce]

Can that be fixed up, at the next release, mce ?

I'll have a look.

[Edit]

Seems there is now (?) a series index "c" that is a description, which is used when the series index "f:d" is empty.

[Edit 2]

Version 20110616.

Fix missing episode descriptions.

[Ferret]

For iViewNapperLite users, if you want the bottom description field filled in
Open ivnlite.vbs with notepad
search for
ds = episode.d
add
If len(ds) < 1 Then ds = show.c
below the found line and save

[gxdata]

Seems there is now (?) a series index "c" that is a description, which is used when the series index "f:d" is empty.
Yes, I did the same. It's a moving target.

[RvG]

New here, hope I am doing the right thing!

Just downloaded iViewNapper 20110616 but get an unhandled error message when I run it.
Here is what it tells me:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Xml.XmlException: Data at the root level is invalid. Line 1, position 1.
at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Throw(Exception e)
at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Throw(String res, String arg)
at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.ParseRootLevelWhitesp ace()
at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.ParseDocumentContent( )
at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Read()
at System.Xml.XmlLoader.Load(XmlDocument doc, XmlReader reader, Boolean preserveWhitespace)
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load(XmlReader reader)
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml(String xml)
at WindowsApplication1.Form1.ProcessiView()
at WindowsApplication1.Form1.Form1_Shown(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnShown(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.CallShownEvent()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallba ckDo(ThreadMethodEntry tme)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallba ckHelper(Object obj)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.runTryCode(Objec t userData)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers.Exe cuteCodeWithGuaranteedCleanup(TryCode code, CleanupCode backoutCode, Object userData)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(Exec utionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallba ck(ThreadMethodEntry tme)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallba cks()


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3623 (GDR.050727-3600)
CodeBase: file:///c:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
iViewNapper
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///G:/iView/ABC/iViewNapper_20110616.exe
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3620 (GDR.050727-3600)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3623 (GDR.050727-3600)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3082 (QFE.050727-3000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Web.Extensions
Assembly Version: 3.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 3.5.30729.3644
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Extensions/3.5.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35/System.Web.Extensions.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Web.Abstractions
Assembly Version: 3.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 3.5.30729.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Abstractions/3.5.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35/System.Web.Abstractions.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Web
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3618 (GDR.050727-3600)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Web/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Core
Assembly Version: 3.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 3.5.30729.1 built by: SP
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/3.5.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.


I run Win XP.

Any suggestions?

[gxdata]

Within the iViewNapper program, I don't think mce (who wrote the program) checked for the version of the .NET Framework that is installed on your system; it must be v3.5 and I think the version you have installed is v2.0

But it is stipulated on his website as being an essential prerequisite - there is a link there, to download and install it (or, Windows Update will prompt you, if you visit that Microsoft website or use the Internet Explorer menus to go to it).

From mce's website -
Get dotNetFx35.exe (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=download+dotNetFx35.exe)and install, if you don't already have it.
Look for the Full Redistributable Package. (Windows 7 already has this installed)

[RvG]

Hi, Thank you for the reply.
I have checked and I have .Net 3.5 SP1 installed. But also 1.1, 2 & 3.0.
I'll try uninstalling the older versions to see if that helps.

[Anywho]

Hi, Thank you for the reply.
I have checked and I have .Net 3.5 SP1 installed. But also 1.1, 2 & 3.0.
I'll try uninstalling the older versions to see if that helps.

Shouldn't be any need to uninstall the older versions unless you feel they might be incomplete or corrupted.

Which ISP are you with? I think that crash log would happen if iViewNapper cannot get access to the authentication file (AFAIK, that's the only thing left that actually uses XML in iView).

You're in Australia?

Can you view videos on the ABC iView website?

[mce]

I run Win XP.

Any suggestions?

Can you get this file with your web browser?

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/auth/?v2

If you want to, cut and paste the contents here but cross out your IP address like this <IP>x.x.x.x<\IP> first.

So far the advice above is good, but do check if firewall or security software is blocking it.

Also this will not run through a proxy server.

[RvG]

Tried a few things but still the same error message.

A few answers:
I am in Australia and my ISP is iiNet.
When I click the link I get:
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx iiNet ip range from isp Hostworks rtmp://203.18.195.10/ondemand rtmp://203.18.195.10/live 95821BC1B1368224398D iiNet and Westnet customers.]]> yes

SBSnapper works fine.

Tried running iViewnapper from my Win7 laptop, same problem.

The older version of iViewnapper worked fine until recently which is why I upgraded to the latest version.
Problems I had with version 20101218 is that it would fetch the program listing but then hang when I tried to go further.

Tried uninstall and re-install the full version of .Net 3.5

Bit stumped.....

[Anywho]

Tried a few things but still the same error message.

A few answers:
I am in Australia and my ISP is iiNet.
When I click the link I get:
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx iiNet ip range from isp Hostworks rtmp://203.18.195.10/ondemand rtmp://203.18.195.10/live 95821BC1B1368224398D iiNet and Westnet customers.]]> yes

Tried running iViewnapper from my Win7 laptop, same problem.

Bit stumped.....

I'll ask again...
Can you view videos on the ABC iView website from your web-browser? For example, can you view this 10 minute video (http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/788925)?

And add I'll some more... :D
What version of XP are you using... 32 or 64bit?
Which Service Pack number?

[RvG]

No problems watching ABC videos on line.

I run XP 32bit SP3.
:)

[Anywho]

No problems watching ABC videos on line.

I run XP 32bit SP3.
:)

It's starting to sound like a firewall or "internet security program" that is not allowing iViewNapper.exe access to the internet. Have you got anything like that running on both machines that would do that?

[RvG]

I run an AVG Firewall but don't think that is the problem.

Just tested with the firewall turned off, same result. And don't forget that SBSnapper is running fine.
What happens with the AVG fire wall is that if a program wants to access the internet, it comes up with a window where you have to give the software permission to access the internet. It doesn't reach that stage before the error message shows up.

[Anywho]

don't forget that SBSnapper is running fine.
Irrelevant. iViewNapper and SBSnapper are totally different programs. They each do things differently.

Try this...

1. Download a fresh copy of iViewNapper.
2. Install it in another directory inside your "My Documents" folder.
3. Rename the fresh copy of iViewNapper to "Napper".
4. Disable your firewall.
5. Try the "new" Napper.

Did that work? If it does, then rename the "Napper" back to "iViewNapper". Still working?

If the above doesn't work, then:
1. Turn on your firewall
2. You're screwed :eek:

[RvG]

OK, installed a fresh copy in a new directory.
Turned off the firewall and it went through!

Turn firewall back on, stuck again.

Now, what is odd is that when I add Napper.exe to the firewall with full permissions, it still hangs.

Not real keen on turning off my firewall, what is causing this problem?
And why didn't I have this problem with older versions of IviewNapper?

[pcspeak]

Hi.
Maybe come at it from the other direction?
Turn off your modem.
Uninstall AVG.
Delete any files/folders belonging to AVG.
Run TWO registry cleaners over your system.
Set up iViewNapper again.
Reinstall a clean AVG.
Turn on the modem.
Let AVG update.
Try iViewNapper.

[Yansky]

OK, installed a fresh copy in a new directory.
Turned off the firewall and it went through!

Turn firewall back on, stuck again.

Now, what is odd is that when I add Napper.exe to the firewall with full permissions, it still hangs.

Not real keen on turning off my firewall, what is causing this problem?
And why didn't I have this problem with older versions of IviewNapper?

You might have to open a port for rtmpdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm). I don't remember the port number offhand. Anywho prolly knows.

Edit: wikipedia says it's port 1935
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol

[RvG]

You might have to open a port for rtmpdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm). I don't remember the port number offhand. Anywho prolly knows.

Edit: wikipedia says it's port 1935
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol

Thank you for that suggestion but at the moment I don't even get to RTMP....
Current workaround I use is:
1 - Turn off firewall
2 - Start iViewNapper
3 - Once a link is established, turn firewall back on
Somehow that allows me to run iViewNapper behind my firewall and download the files I want.

[assy]

Hi.
I know this forum is for the iview, but is anyone having problems with the SBSnapper? I am getting a message "cannot open channel 94" when I try to run it.

I understand that there was a virus at SBS, do we have to wait until they fix that? Or should we be doing something else to fix our "napper"?

Thanks

[blood.eaglz]

Well a check with the sbs site shows that they are streaming their shows though apppears they are delayed in starting, but all else looks normal the channel data is still at http://player.sbs.com.au/video/playlist/index/standalone/94 as far as I can tell the xml structure hasn't changed, so it looks like a server issue or they've altered their security blocking the napper as is (new port or new check in swf, etc).

Anywho, mce or the others with better knowledge than me will be able to tell for sure, my best guess at the moment is on a server issue choking the retrieval of the xml data

[mce]

Mythbusters Ep 120 has malformed XML.

<description>Adam & Jamie ...</description>

The & is not escaped and that is the problem.

I'll have to add into the parser a workaround for single unescaped &'s.

[gxdata]

Is it only me, or is everyone still getting 'Cannot load Ch94' with SBSNapper?

[assy]

Is it only me, or is everyone still getting 'Cannot load Ch94' with SBSNapper?

Yep, still getting it. :(

[blood.eaglz]

yeah, until either the mythbusters ep expires and is removed from the channel xml, or mce releases a new version that can parse unescaped &'s sbsnapper will keep choking on the xml

[mce]

New version of SBSNapper is out. (20110722)

[pcspeak]

Thanks! ;)

[assy]

New version of SBSNapper is out. (20110722)

Fabulous! Thanks

[pokepal101]

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but here goes anyway.

I am pokepal101/yinge101, the original creator of GetIView, the .NET iView downloader. It dropped out of development around the time when the Whirlpool thread was closed, but I'm restarting light development.

Download (v2.0 Alpha): http://d91ac50d.linkbucks.com
Alternate: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26746878/GetIView2.0.zip
(Requires Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 or higher)

I think it still works, and I think that it still has an advantage over other iView downloaders: It doesn't need to be updated every time the ABC changes their handshake url thing-a-my-watsits.

If this is in the wrong section, or isn't detailed enough, or something, please let me know and I'll try to rectify it.

[Anywho]

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but here goes anyway.

I am pokepal101/yinge101, the original creator of GetIView, the .NET iView downloader. It dropped out of development around the time when the Whirlpool thread was closed, but I'm restarting light development.

Download (v2.0 Alpha): http://d91ac50d.linkbucks.com
Alternate: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26746878/GetIView2.0.zip
(Requires Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 or higher)

I think it still works, and I think that it still has an advantage over other iView downloaders: It doesn't need to be updated every time the ABC changes their handshake url thing-a-my-watsits.

If this is in the wrong section, or isn't detailed enough, or something, please let me know and I'll try to rectify it.

Hi! Thanks for this :)

Just a couple of points...

1. The rtmpdump.exe you are using/distributing uses OpenSSL. This is frowned upon because of the licensing/distribution issues it presents.

2. The current maintainer of rtmpdump will rip your head off and spit down the hole if you do not include a reference to the author. You need to meet licensing requirements by showing where you can download the source code for rtmpdump from as well as where you got it from.

Other than those couple of points, great - another fallback program if something goes nuts at ABC. :D

(Which reminds me, anyone know when the proposed changes to iView going to show themselves?)

[pokepal101]

Hi! Thanks for this :)

Just a couple of points...

1. The rtmpdump.exe you are using/distributing uses OpenSSL. This is frowned upon because of the licensing/distribution issues it presents.

2. The current maintainer of rtmpdump will rip your head off and spit down the hole if you do not include a reference to the author. You need to meet licensing requirements by showing where you can download the source code for rtmpdump from as well as where you got it from.

Other than those couple of points, great - another fallback program if something goes nuts at ABC. :D

(Which reminds me, anyone know when the proposed changes to iView going to show themselves?)

Thanks for the points. For number 1, I don't really know where to get a non-OpenSSL version and for number 2, I've updated the readme to include a link to RTMPDump's website.

Version 2.1: http://9854b582.linkbucks.com (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26746878/GetIView2.1.zip)

[pokepal101]

Update to GetIView.

Download (v2.1 Alpha): http://9854b582.linkbucks.com
Alternate: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26746878/GetIView2.1.zip
(Requires Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 or higher)

Updated readme to include information about RTMPDump and it's author.

(Sorry about doubleposting, it was just to separate things)

[Anywho]

Thanks for the points.
You're welcome :)


For number 1, I don't really know where to get a non-OpenSSL version

You can take the one out of the iView_Downloader v15.84 (command line version). It is relatively the latest one and uses PolarSSL which is much more relaxed in regards to licensing. The executable is in the "bin" directory and the (required/desired) RTMPdump documentation is in the "docs" directory.

You can find the link to the iView_Downloader (batch file version) in the Wikia link here (http://iviewdownloaders.wikia.com/wiki/ABC_iView_Downloaders_Wiki)... While you're at it, perhaps you'd like to update the Wikia page with the details to your program ;)

[gxdata]

Any Mac / iPad (http://all-streaming-media.com/links/ipad.php) people here who can advise?

I downloaded an episode of Play School using (Windows GUI downloader) iViewNapper, and the resulting MP4 file is about 5Mb.

Using a trial version of a video converter for iPad (Daniusoft iPad Video Converter), I set it to a profile "iPad Video H.264 (*.mp4)", and the result was a 22.4Mb file.

That seems a huge bloat in file size.

I assume it works on an iPad (yet to send it*). It plays well on VLC Media Player (Windows), apart from the watermark imposed because the converter is a trial.

The MediaInfo description is available, if this helps. I would prefer to be able to use ffmpeg to do the conversion (though the Danuisoft GUI application is very nice).

* The email account (Hotmail) that I sent it to bounced it, message: "552 #5.3.4 message size exceeds limit" :(

[gxdata]

Just had a look again at the categories.xml and classifications.xml files.

iView has added new "Genre" categories for its shows - Education, and Indigenous.

So far, there are only 2 series that fall in the category Education -
Backyard Science
Atoms Alive

In iViewNapper, you will see them under Catch Up but may miss them under other buttons that you might think they fall under (eg, docs / Documentary).

[Stream Recorder]

I downloaded an episode of Play School using (Windows GUI downloader) iViewNapper, and the resulting MP4 file is about 5Mb.
Try to change the container into MP4 without converting first:
FLV with H264 Codecs: Convert FLV to MP4 without re-encoding (remux FLV)

[Anywho]

I downloaded an episode of Play School using (Windows GUI downloader) iViewNapper, and the resulting MP4 file is about 5Mb.

Using a trial version of a video converter for iPad (Daniusoft iPad Video Converter), I set it to a profile "iPad Video H.264 (*.mp4)", and the result was a 22.4Mb file.

That seems a huge bloat in file size.


How big did you say the original MP4 size was? 5MB??? Should have been around 130MB according to the iView site!?!

[Yansky]

Any Mac / iPad (http://all-streaming-media.com/links/ipad.php) people here who can advise?

I downloaded an episode of Play School using (Windows GUI downloader) iViewNapper, and the resulting MP4 file is about 5Mb.

Using a trial version of a video converter for iPad (Daniusoft iPad Video Converter), I set it to a profile "iPad Video H.264 (*.mp4)", and the result was a 22.4Mb file.

That seems a huge bloat in file size.

I assume it works on an iPad (yet to send it*). It plays well on VLC Media Player (Windows), apart from the watermark imposed because the converter is a trial.

The MediaInfo description is available, if this helps. I would prefer to be able to use ffmpeg to do the conversion (though the Danuisoft GUI application is very nice).

* The email account (Hotmail) that I sent it to bounced it, message: "552 #5.3.4 message size exceeds limit" :(

I think you just need to unwrap the f4v container. Same as here: hxxp://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1342590&r=28916996#r28916996

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-mac.xpi
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-windows.xpi

[gxdata]

How big did you say the original MP4 size was? 5MB??? Should have been around 130MB according to the iView site!?!

Sorry, I should have said that I cut a 5Mb chunk of Play School, before converting.

(Full episode size is 128,189,755 bytes, MD5 = B4C545876CE18B94212F08C0C5A22CBF in my download).

But the bloat is the same factor, if I convert the full file with that conversion utility.

[gxdata]

Try to change the container into MP4 without converting first:
FLV with H264 Codecs: Convert FLV to MP4 without re-encoding (remux FLV)

Thanks, Stream Recorder. Will try that tomorrow before breakfast. Several utilities, 2 or 3 ways suggested.

[gxdata]

I think you just need to unwrap the f4v container. Same as here: hxxp://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1342590&r=28916996#r28916996

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-mac.xpi
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-windows.xpi

Will also try that method, Yansky - tomorrow. I knew there would be several gurus here who would suggest 9 ways to skin the cat! ;)

[blood.eaglz]

Any Mac / iPad (http://all-streaming-media.com/links/ipad.php) people here who can advise?

I downloaded an episode of Play School using (Windows GUI downloader) iViewNapper, and the resulting MP4 file is about 5Mb.

Using a trial version of a video converter for iPad (Daniusoft iPad Video Converter), I set it to a profile "iPad Video H.264 (*.mp4)", and the result was a 22.4Mb file.

That seems a huge bloat in file size.

I assume it works on an iPad (yet to send it*). It plays well on VLC Media Player (Windows), apart from the watermark imposed because the converter is a trial.

The MediaInfo description is available, if this helps. I would prefer to be able to use ffmpeg to do the conversion (though the Danuisoft GUI application is very nice).

* The email account (Hotmail) that I sent it to bounced it, message: "552 #5.3.4 message size exceeds limit" :(

Thought may as well throw my hat into the arena as well, this stuff seems to get lost in the thread.

My FFmpeg based bat file solution for windows (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25147#post25147)

Yansky's Port for OSX of said solution (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25150#post25150) * I have nothing to do with this other than providing the bat files upon which it is based any problems with OSX version contact Yansky :D

follow the instructions in my post (or Yansky's for OSX) and it will ReMux (ie a 1 to 1 copy of the video and audio streams) from the f4v to a true Mp4 file.

[gxdata]

Thought may as well throw my hat into the arena as well, this stuff seems to get lost in the thread.

My FFmpeg based bat file solution for windows (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25147#post25147)

Yansky's Port for OSX of said solution (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25150#post25150) * I have nothing to do with this other than providing the bat files upon which it is based any problems with OSX version contact Yansky :D

follow the instructions in my post (or Yansky's for OSX) and it will ReMux (ie a 1 to 1 copy of the video and audio streams) from the f4v to a true Mp4 file.

Notes taken (apart from the URL of this forum post, I followed up all other URLs, downloaded most of the software, and wrote myself some instructions. Then, tested on 'Play School' and wrote some simple batch files, and pointed MediaInfo at the results and exported its reports).

I found the Zeranoe FFmpeg builds (for Windows, 32-bit and 64-bit) and used FFmpeg with the simplest of batch files, and hope that the iPad (http://all-streaming-media.com/links/ipad.php) gizmo can play the result.

[gxdata]

Is anyone DL Little Dorrit? I would like to get Eps 1 to 3 in particular (1 hour eps). I see that the running order has been confused, not sure if eps 1 and 2 ever appeared.

[Yansky]

Aside; Anywho, mce, y'know how the formatting for the series JSON data was always a little weird - well I think I know what they might be doing. I think they might be using a LINQ style.
http://hugoware.net/blog/3-things-to-know-before-using-jlinq

[sbt]

Hi all,

FYI, I found today that aunty have switched the RTMP port for Hostworks from the default 1935 to 80, presumably to help firewall traversal issues for the media streams. This breaks the downloaders :(

Assuming this is a permanent change, to fix, "-c 80" needs to be added to the rtmpdump command lines in the downloaders to get them working again. I have tested this successfully with the ones I can hack on such as the iViewDownloader and iViewNapperLite.

Anyway, thanks to all the authors and contributors for creating and maintaining these cool tools. :cool: Hope this helps!

Cheers,
sbt.

[blood.eaglz]

iViewnapper 20110616 works fine for me on hostworks.... (downloading as I write :) )

if it is/had broken for you my guess is, bad timing you managed to hit them trying to implement a port 80 access along side the default 1935, or some other server issue, they've had a couple recently...

[sbt]

iViewnapper 20110616 works fine for me on hostworks.... (downloading as I write :) )



Thanks for the feedback, blood :)

Hmm, seems to still be only working for port 80 for me (i.e. I've just re-checked that the old port is still broken/blocked and the new one still works). So I don't think it's a timing issue. Maybe a locality issue :confused:

I should have said, "*If* you're having this issue, *then* this may fix it..." Anyway, maybe need more data points. I'm in Sydney, with Internode, using hostworks. Is anyone else seeing this? If so, where are you and who is your ISP, if it's OK to ask this?

Cheers,
sbt.

[gxdata]

iViewnapper 20110616 works fine for me on hostworks.... (downloading as I write :) )

if it is/had broken for you my guess is, bad timing you managed to hit them trying to implement a port 80 access along side the default 1935, or some other server issue, they've had a couple recently...

Yes, some weird server beaviours which usually require waiting until things change again.
Incidentally, I have had a few downloads in the past 3 weeks that connected to Akamai instead of Hostworks (my ISP is iiNet, should be free on Hostworks).

[sbt]

Incidentally, I have had a few downloads in the past 3 weeks that connected to Akamai instead of Hostworks (my ISP is iiNet, should be free on Hostworks).

With this report, I wondered whether the client I was using would matter, so I tried the same one blood.eaglz used (iViewNapper from June). However, I still had the same issue connecting. Oh well.

By the way, which downloader switches between Akamai and Hostworks? I'd want to be careful not to get too much unmetered :D

Cheers,
sbt.

[Anywho]

With this report, I wondered whether the client I was using would matter, so I tried the same one blood.eaglz used (iViewNapper from June). However, I still had the same issue connecting. Oh well.
You sure something isn't broken on your end, like something blocking port 1935. For example:

another video playing in a browser at the same time
firewall permission or antimalware blocking port
hung program
more than one instance of RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) or downloader running


Specifying "-c 80" means you are overriding the port that was specified in the RTMP URL to rtmpdump. I don't think any of the D/Ler's actually specify the port number for the reason mentioned in the following paragraph.

By default, rtmpdump will use port 1935 because that is the specification. I'm not too sure, but I think rtmpdump will fall back to port 80 or else port 443 if it cannot get access to 1935 (will that's what should happen IIRC).

However, I might just ask for confirmation on the RTMPdump mailing list that RTMPdump does actually fall back to other than port 1935 if it's not available.

By the way, which downloader switches between Akamai and Hostworks? I'd want to be careful not to get too much unmetered :D
They all do. It gets the cue from ABC's server. It's specified in the HOST field of this page (http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/auth/?v2).

[blood.eaglz]

Yes, some weird server beaviours which usually require waiting until things change again.
Incidentally, I have had a few downloads in the past 3 weeks that connected to Akamai instead of Hostworks (my ISP is iiNet, should be free on Hostworks).


Yep that's one of 3 different server issues I've had the past week or so (I'm with Adam fyi, so also meant to be through hostworks), though my downloads never went through when connecting to akami.

2nd was unable to connect at all via downloader or iview site for a few hours

3rd was a 0kb file (Good Game) that was fixed later.


If the past is any thing to go by this suggests either the hostworks server is being over loaded at certain times again, or they are messing with the server again (eg maintenance or optimisation hopefully nothing more).


They all do. It gets the cue from ABC's server. It's specified in the HOST field of this page (http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/auth/?v2).

yeah this is iviews fail safe, should one server provider fail (pretty much equals "hostworks") then all traffic is rerouted through the other as a stop gap, has happened a couple of times since iview started.

[sbt]

You sure something isn't broken on your end, like something blocking port 1935. For example:

another video playing in a browser at the same time
firewall permission or antimalware blocking port
hung program
more than one instance of RTMPdump or downloader running


:D Bingo! Thanks, Anywho, that was it! :o It turned out that a weird set of unrelated changes to my LAN configuration triggered a router firewall fail. RTMP traffic was relying on the side effects of another rule for outbound Skype (http://all-streaming-media.com/non-streaming/Skype-Free-worldwide-calls-over-the-Internet-Cheap-international-phone-calls-to-landlines-and-mobiles-Windows-Linux-MacOS-X-Pocket-PC.htm) traffic and I foolishly hadn't checked the firewall log thinking this couldn't be the issue as it hadn't changed; I was focused on the IDS side, which had given issues in the past.


Specifying "-c 80" means you are overriding the port that was specified in the RTMP URL to rtmpdump. I don't think any of the D/Ler's actually specify the port number for the reason mentioned in the following paragraph.

By default, rtmpdump will use port 1935 because that is the specification. I'm not too sure, but I think rtmpdump will fall back to port 80 or else port 443 if it cannot get access to 1935 (will that's what should happen IIRC).

However, I might just ask for confirmation on the RTMPdump mailing list that RTMPdump does actually fall back to other than port 1935 if it's not available.

Yes, I'd discovered this use of port 80 by sniffing traffic from the iView flash client which was still working fine. That's where I got the idea to change to "-c 80". However, to save you the trouble with the RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) folks, I can say in my experience that RTMPdump doesn't fall back (at least in version 2.3). It would be a nice feature, though; if you have any chops with those folks, it'd be great if you'd ask them.


They all do. It gets the cue from ABC's server. It's specified in the HOST field of this page (http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/auth/?v2).

OK, sorry, this was a misunderstanding; I'd assumed since my ISP says it's unmetered and they can't unmeter Akamai sources (unlike iiNet) they'd always point me at Hostworks. I'd noticed people complaining on the ABC forums about a lack of fail-over from unmetered to metered sources when the ABC was having load issues with the unmetered side. However, it's probably due to gxdata being with iiNet; they'd have the fail-over option with unmetered Akamai.

I guess if that's true, none of the downloaders will fail-over for me, if they all refer only to the directions in the HOST field and don't second guess it.

Thanks again for the assist and detailed explanations!

[sbt]

If the past is any thing to go by this suggests either the hostworks server is being over loaded at certain times again, or they are messing with the server again (eg maintenance or optimisation hopefully nothing more).

Sorry for the misleading report; this issue turned out to be totally my end! :o


yeah this is iviews fail safe, should one server provider fail (pretty much equals "hostworks") then all traffic is rerouted through the other as a stop gap, has happened a couple of times since iview started.
As per previous post, I think this behaviour might be ISP specific; I haven't observed at all with Internode, although issues have been mostly with load rather than reachability, so not sure what scenarios would trigger failover in this case.

Thanks again...

[Anywho]

It would be a nice feature, though; if you have any chops with those folks, it'd be great if you'd ask them.

OK, I asked on the mailing list (good to see the arrogants and arseholes are still there), and the answer is no, RTMPdump does NOT fallback to ports 443 or 80. And going by the replies so far, there is not going to be any intention to do so.

[sbt]

OK, I asked on the mailing list (good to see the arrogants and arseholes are still there), and the answer is no, RTMPdump does NOT fallback to ports 443 or 80. And going by the replies so far, there is not going to be any intention to do so.

Anywho, thanks very much for running the gauntlet over there :) ; I guess it'll be up to the downloader developers to handle this if they want, retrying the rtmpdump process using the "-c 80" option if the default doesn't connect. I guess another option would be to fork RTMPdump and add this feature ourselves.

I noticed the batch file downloader already tries "different places" if the default doesn't work. Maybe the port 80 approach could be added as another retry option. Or, maybe just make port 80 the default, if it works for Hostworks.

Cheers.

[Anywho]

Anywho, thanks very much for running the gauntlet over there :)
Hahaha... No probs ;)

We have a winner! Howard Chu (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/member.php?u=21790), the current author and lead programmer, has added an extra exit-code so that the caller programs can react to a "no-connect" situation. This means that the caller can check for the code (3) and try another port using "-c".

So the codes returned by RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) are/will be:
0 = Success
1 = Failed
2 = Incomplete
3 = No Connection

I just need to compile the latest revision so that everyone can try it :cool:

Many thanks to Howard!

[gxdata]

Hahaha... No probs ;)

We have a winner! Howard Chu (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/member.php?u=21790), the current author and lead programmer, has added an extra exit-code so that the caller programs can react to a "no-connect" situation. This means that the caller can check for the code (3) and try another port using "-c".

So the codes returned by RTMPdump are/will be:
0 = Success
1 = Failed
2 = Incomplete
3 = No Connection

I just need to compile the latest revision so that everyone can try it :cool:

Many thanks to Howard!

Well, that is totally unexpected by me (I follow the RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) email list, and there is a lot of grumpiness).

Those extra error codes will be useful (I did ask a naive question on the list 6+ months ago - about getting better error feedback - but was discouraged & gave up).

AdamW is making some progress (same list) with some extra features for rtmpdump, so this is positive for the iView/SBS/Plus!7 downloaders.

[hyc]

Well, that is totally unexpected by me (I follow the rtmpdump email list, and there is a lot of grumpiness).

Nah, it's just low tolerance for stupid questions. Ask something intelligent and you'll get a useful response.

[sbt]

We have a winner! Howard Chu (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/member.php?u=21790), the current author and lead programmer, has added an extra exit-code so that the caller programs can react to a "no-connect" situation. This means that the caller can check for the code (3) and try another port using "-c".

[snip]

I just need to compile the latest revision so that everyone can try it :cool:

Many thanks to Howard!

Yes, that's great news and mad props all round! :D



Those extra error codes will be useful (I did ask a naive question on the list 6+ months ago - about getting better error feedback - but was discouraged & gave up).

AdamW is making some progress (same list) with some extra features for rtmpdump, so this is positive for the iView/SBS/Plus!7 downloaders.

I always found it annoying to have to manually delete the zero-byte files if the connection barfs. Hopefully the extra error code from RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) means this can be handled in a more user-friendly way. :cool:

By the way, you've all been so helpful, so please let me know if I can assist with testing updates, etc. At least I know how to trigger the port fail! :)

Cheers.

[Yansky]

Nah, it's just low tolerance for stupid questions. Ask something intelligent and you'll get a useful response.

I accidentally a whole rtmp, is it dangerous?

[Anywho]

I just need to compile the latest revision so that everyone can try it :cool:

Tiz done... You can get the latest (for Windows) v2.4 (110812) from here (http://www.4shared.com/file/JPp5YHXr/rtmpdump-24.html).

[sbt]

Tiz done... You can get the latest (for Windows) v2.4 (110812) from here (http://www.4shared.com/file/JPp5YHXr/rtmpdump-24.html).

Nice one! Thanks for putting this out there. :cool: As promised, have tested this successfully, using some Q&D bodges to iViewDownloader v15.84, thusly:

...
SET RTMP_DEBUG=-# -V
SET RTMP_PORT=

SET CURL_OPT=--compressed -B -s -o
...

...
) else (
bin\rtmpdump.exe %RESUME% %RTMP_DEBUG% -r rtmp://203.18.195.10/ %RTMP_PORT% -a ondemand?auth=%TOKEN% -y %SHOW_PATH% -o "%SAVE_PATH%" %SWFPARAM%
)

REM pause

rem echo %ERRORLEVEL%

if ERRORLEVEL 3 (
Call :LogMessage Error connecting to port 1935. Retrying on port 80...
set /a RETRY_COUNT=!RETRY_COUNT! - 1

if !RETRY_COUNT! GTR 1 (
DEL "%SAVE_PATH%"
SET RTMP_PORT=-c 80
goto RetryDownload
) else (
call :FailedList %1 %2
if /i "%LEECH%" == "p" pause
goto DownloadFailed
)
)
...

I noticed that I had to force the deletion of the zero-byte file created if the 1935 port connect failed. Otherwise the retry fails; rtmpdump appears to insist the stream output file doesn't exist. I hope this helps; I'm sure it needs refinement by someone who understands batch programming and the downloaders more than me.

Not sure if aunty have been watching us here, but it seems the iview client itself has stopped failing over to port 80. Now we're ahead of the curve! :p

Cheers.

[gxdata]

Yo Gabba Gabba ep5 won't begin download with either iViewNapper or the Batch Downloader - is OK on the iViewer Player website.
Not near any software tools at present, so can't see what's up.

There are no errors reported by either - just no D/L

Anyone else having the same result?

[Anywho]

Yo Gabba Gabba ep5 won't begin download with either iViewNapper or the Batch Downloader - is OK on the iViewer Player website.


It's the ":" that's screwin' it up. I could have sworn this was fixed ages ago... Looks like the bug's come out in the warmer weather :eek:

[Anywho]

Yo Gabba Gabba ep5 won't begin download with either iViewNapper or the Batch Downloader - is OK on the iViewer Player website.


It does NOT play on the iView site. I get this on the screen (http://i.imgur.com/OvfQe.png).

(I thought it was too early for bugs :p )

[gxdata]

It does NOT play on the iView site.
It did at the time I posted (at least the first 90 seconds). Maybe ABC will mount it again.
These are the things that keep life perplexing. :confused:
Actually, it is OK on iView Player right now for me (Tues 7:50pm, Melbourne time) - I skipped through all 23 minutes of it. But it fails on iVN (v20110616).

[Anywho]

Actually, it is OK on iView Player right now for me (Tues 7:50pm, Melbourne time) - I skipped through all 23 minutes of it. But it fails on iVN (v20110616).

Still dead for me (Tues 7:30, Adelaide). I think they're trying to point the windmill in the right direction to get the most wind... But it's dead calm here at the moment. Either that or they've bought a new cockroach and it's ruined the treadmill to the generator :D

[gxdata]

Still dead for me (Tues 7:30, Adelaide). I think they're trying to point the windmill in the right direction to get the most wind... But it's dead calm here at the moment. Either that or they've bought a new cockroach and it's ruined the treadmill to the generator :D

30+ mins ago I tried another (Atoms Alive Ep5), and got Akamai serving it (usual: Hostworks). But I will download the JSON file for YGG 2/5 and take a look at it (eyeballs, no software tools).

[edit]

OK, the reason that the downloaders don't work is probably that the server file (as named in the series ID=2986838 JSON) does not exist - I suspect it is a human mistake, incrementing the wrong end of the episode identification string -

ep#4 (OK): kids/yogabba_10_02_04.mp4
ep#5 (NA): kids/yogabba_11_02_04.mp4

When (for #5) kids/yogabba_10_02_05.mp4 is used, it downloads.

But why the iView Player works for episode #5 - no idea.

[Yansky]

30+ mins ago I tried another (Atoms Alive Ep5), and got Akamai serving it (usual: Hostworks). But I will download the JSON file for YGG 2/5 and take a look at it (eyeballs, no software tools).

[edit]

OK, the reason that the downloaders don't work is probably that the server file (as named in the series ID=2986838 JSON) does not exist - I suspect it is a human mistake, incrementing the wrong end of the episode identification string -

ep#4 (OK): kids/yogabba_10_02_04.mp4
ep#5 (NA): kids/yogabba_11_02_04.mp4

When (for #5) kids/yogabba_10_02_05.mp4 is used, it downloads.

But why the iView Player works for episode #5 - no idea.

Could be that it hasn't propagated to the akamai server chache that your ISP connects to but it has to others. Even though it's one http address, it's propagated to multiple hosting servers.

[Anywho]

But why the iView Player works for episode #5 - no idea.

Nope. Still doesn't show here using the iView website. This (http://i.imgur.com/R5CKE.png) is today's response. So it must have been corrected on Akamai servers but not on the Hostworks servers.

[Anywho]

Nope. Still doesn't show here using the iView website. This (http://i.imgur.com/R5CKE.png) is today's response. So it must have been corrected on Akamai servers but not on the Hostworks servers.

Seems to have been fixed now. Can view/download by the normal means. :cool:

[gxdata]

I have been accessing via TeamViewer for the last week - works well to a WHS2011 on the other side of Oz.

[sbt]

Hey all,

I was having trouble with Carlos ep2 (got: "RTMPSockBuf_Fill, recv returned -1. GetSockError(): 10060 (Unknown error)"), so on a hunch I added "-b 72000000" to the RTMPdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm) command line in my favourite downloaders. Don't know exactly why, but it works! Hope that helps.

Cheers,
sbt.

[bowtiesarecool]

Hi All

The mpeg-4 movie doenloaded won't open on my computer as it says

Error2048- Couldn't open the file ** because it is not a file type QuickTime understands.

What should I do? Using Microsoft XP.

Thanks!

[any ANONYMOUS forum user]

Error2048- Couldn't open the file ** because it is not a file type QuickTime understands.

What should I do? Using Microsoft XP.
The obviuous answer is "Don't use Apple products in Windows" :D

[Anywho]

Hi All

The mpeg-4 movie doenloaded won't open on my computer as it says

Error2048- Couldn't open the file ** because it is not a file type QuickTime understands.

What should I do? Using Microsoft XP.

Thanks!

Use VLC media player (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html) or one that understands both FLV and MP4 files.

[bowtiesarecool]

Thank you!! :D

VLC is playing the files beautifully.

[MickJT]

Tried my Amiga version last week and it still works. Not been updated since July '10 :)

[Anywho]

my Amiga version

Any reason why you're not providing the GPL in your package that uses rtmpdump?

[Anywho]

Tried my Amiga version last week and it still works. Not been updated since July '10 :)

My, my... How short your memory is (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26752&postcount=550)...

[Anywho]

my Amiga version

Any reason you're not supplying the GPL notice for RTMPdump? It is actually required, unless Howard Chu says you don't have to.

[hyc]

No one has talked to me about getting any GPL licensing exceptions. If the notice is missing, then the package is in violation of the license.

Seriously folks - it's not hard to keep the package integrity intact. There's no excuse for screwing this up.

[johnnoblack]

any ideas on how to download vids from Channel 9's FixPlay service?
want to get 'young doctors' ep but no clue on how to download it

only been using iview downloader (batch version) v15.81
but can't find an equivalent to download channel 9 videos?

[gxdata]

any ideas on how to download vids from Channel 9's FixPlay service?
want to get 'young doctors' ep but no clue on how to download it

only been using iview downloader (batch version) v15.81
but can't find an equivalent to download channel 9 videos?

I think it still uses Silverlight v4.0, and I haven't discovered a fast downloader for it (there are other problems I won't bore you with).

Stream Transport won't recognize it (expects a Flash type video).

I haven't used it, but WM Capture 5 (http://www.wmrecorder.com/wm_capture.php) is supposed to work. Here (http://www.ehow.com/how_6304538_capture-silverlight.html) is a simple tutorial.

Let us know how you got on. If successful, it would be nice to post the information in another thread on the Forums.

[gxdata]

I think it still uses Silverlight v4.0, and I haven't discovered a fast downloader for it (there are other problems I won't bore you with).


I tried Jaksta, on a recommendation from this thread (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/webtv-tv2-no-need-silverlight-4-0-t9792.html?&highlight=silverlight)- which is worth reading. There are other, free programs that are supposed to handle Silverlight shows: see the thread mentioned.

The trial version of Jaksta (http://www.jaksta.com/download/download-jaksta-for-windows/) only downloads 50% of any video (except Youtube), and it is a little strange to control what gets downloaded and at what resolution, and in what format.

Once starting a download, you can stop 'watching' and let it download unattended, but I'm not sure if it is quicker than just watching the show as it streams. What I ended up with was half of Ep1 of Young Doctors from FixPlay (http://fixplay.ninemsn.com/youngdoctors/1/8365884/episode-1) - in Matroska format at 196KB/s - not a good resolution - but that was the "Low" quality setting in Jaksta.

Probably best to continue enquiries or discussions on a different thread, now - this one is for iView only. Send a PM and I'll have a look for the NineMSN / FixPlay thread(s), to continue.

[MickJT]

My, my... How short your memory is (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26752&postcount=550)...

Wasn't that flipping between gzip compression and none? If so, wget handles that. It's never stopped working, even during that time, at least I never saw it stop working.

[Anywho]

Wasn't that flipping between gzip compression and none? If so, wget handles that. It's never stopped working, even during that time, at least I never saw it stop working.

Did you read that post? I said it was broken during that period.

That was the reason we changed to CURL, because WGET did not handle the compression at all. I even wrote a quick'n'dirty gzip compressor at the time until Yansky asked why we weren't using CURL.

When we get glitches with iView, I always run the gamut of iView downloaders to see which one works (if any). If one does, then I usually attempt to see why (hey, I'm not proud:p).

[gxdata]

Off-Topic, but can anyone recommend either a multi-segmented (read: fast) downloader for Microsoft ASF files using MMS:// protocol, or a (Windows) code project that uses a downloader, similar to the way that rtmpdump.exe is used?

I have been using SDP Multimedia for years. It is slow but sure, once the .ASX files are parsed for the contained .ASF file URLs. But I would like to try something better / quicker.

[Edit]
I can't find I suitable thread or forum section on this board, despite quite a few searches.

[Bahman]

^ I use HiDownload (http://s2.farashare.com/users/202/software/network-internet/download-manager/HiDownload.Platinum.v7.993_p30download.com.zip) for that work!!

[gxdata]

^ I use HiDownload (http://s2.farashare.com/users/202/software/network-internet/download-manager/HiDownload.Platinum.v7.993_p30download.com.zip) for that work!!

Thanks. I looked at their webpage a few days ago. I see they now have 50% off all orders, which makes HiDownload Platinum with 'Lifetime License' $25.

I was going to write something using the BASS audio library (http://www.un4seen.com/).

[gxdata]

There is another Genre category used by iView - Trailers. These vids are about 30seconds (2.5Mb), mounted at iView about a week ahead of the broadcast date.

Trailer Upstairs Downstairs Episode 1 8.30pm Sun 4 Dec ABC1.mp4

[johnq]

I am having loads of problems getting the normally bullet proof iViewfox to work with this combination. I have two systems and the problems are common on both.

Initially I would open Firefox and get a message about incompatibilities between iViewfox and Firefox 8.0.1, a reinstallation of iViewfox would fix the problem until the next time I tried to run it.

Now I am unable to get iViewfox to reinstall at all.

Anyone else having this problem or better still have a fix?

[Anywho]

Initially I would open Firefox and get a message about incompatibilities between iViewfox and Firefox 8.0.1, a reinstallation of iViewfox would fix the problem until the next time I tried to run it.

Now I am unable to get iViewfox to reinstall at all.

Anyone else having this problem or better still have a fix?

I am using Windows 7, so...

I just installed this into FF8 and had some trouble getting a download to work. The rtmpdump console window would open, but then it just sat there with the message "INFO: Connected". To get around that, I replaced the old rtmpdump (v2.3) used in iViewFox with a newer version (v2.4 110812) and that fixed that problem.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to fix up the "confused install" problem on an Apple machine. On Windows, it's always a PITA when that happens. Just deleting the Addon's directory doesn't fix it :(

[johnq]

I have downgraded Firefox to 3.4 and it works a treat so it seems there is something about Firefox 8.0.1 that iViewfox doesn't like.

[samhfoley]

New to the forum, great stuff. Quick question...is iviewfox compatible with Google Chrome at all, or if not is there another known program which will do the trick? Thanks in advance.

[Anywho]

New to the forum, great stuff. Quick question...is iviewfox compatible with Google Chrome at all, or if not is there another known program which will do the trick? Thanks in advance.

Hi. Welcome ;)

Nothing for Chrome. What platform are you running (Win, Mac, Lin, Ami)?

[Yansky]

Has anyone managed to compile the latest rtmpdump source using PolarSSL? I've tried on OSX and on windows 7 using Cygwin and I keep getting the same error message:


yansky@yansky-Win7PC ~/rtmpdump
$ make CRYPTO=POLARSSL
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/yansky/rtmpdump/librtmp'
gcc -Wall -DRTMPDUMP_VERSION=\"v2.4\" -DUSE_POLARSSL -O2 -fPIC -c -o rtmp.o rtmp.c
rtmp.c:1:0: warning: -fPIC ignored for target (all code is position independent)
In file included from handshake.h:83:0,
from rtmp.c:127:
dh.h: In function ‘MDH_generate_key’:
dh.h:64:43: error: ‘havege_rand’ undeclared (first use in this function)
dh.h:64:43: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
rtmp.c: In function ‘RTMP_Connect1’:
rtmp.c:867:7: error: ‘havege_rand’ undeclared (first use in this function)
<builtin>: recipe for target `rtmp.o' failed
make[1]: *** [rtmp.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yansky/rtmpdump/librtmp'
Makefile:76: recipe for target `librtmp/librtmp.a' failed
make: *** [librtmp/librtmp.a] Error 2




Anyone have any ideas?

[KSV]

in current svn trunk variable havege_rand is changed to havege_random so you have to change it in rtmpdump source code to compile it successfully with PolarSSL.

[Yansky]

in current svn trunk variable havege_rand is changed to havege_random so you have to change it in rtmpdump source code to compile it successfully with PolarSSL.

Thanks mate, that did the trick.

Note: I also ran into the old -soname issue, but used the instructions on this blog post to fix the compile: http://trick77.com/2010/07/31/capture-flash-flv-streams-rtmpdump-mac-os-x/



Hopefully I'll have a chance to compile a PowerPC version in the next couple of days.

[KSV]

Note: I also ran into the old -soname issue, but used the instructions on this blog post to fix the compile: http://trick77.com/2010/07/31/capture-flash-flv-streams-rtmpdump-mac-os-x/

that blog mentions wrong command line to compile rtmpdump for mac. correct command line should be

make SYS=darwin

not

make SYS=posix

which is for linux. using correct command will automatically set the correct options for mac.

[Yansky]

that blog mentions wrong command line to compile rtmpdump for mac. correct command line should be

make SYS=darwin

not

make SYS=posix

which is for linux. using correct command will automatically set the correct options for mac.
Woops, thanks. Fixed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/rtmpdump-2.4-OSX-Intel-PolarSSL.zip

[Yansky]

I've updated the iViewFox Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/iviewfox/versions/

[Stream Ripper]

I've updated the iViewFox Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/iviewfox/versions/

Awesome thanks! :D

[coolforcats]

I am having trouble with the iview(ABC) downloader 1.3.6 running on Firefox 8.0.1 and Mac OSX 10.5.8. The Dialog Box doesn't allow me to enter file type (it's empty) and rather than a download, it just creates a text file. Also the add-on icon doesn't appear in the bottom right hand of the status bar. Any suggestions?

[Core Share]

Hello,

I have a query about iViewNapper output files and hardware media players.

I have had it recommended to me that Videolan VLC is the best media player for the iViewNapper output files.

However I was wondering what a recommended hardware media player (for playing back onb a TV) would be?

Currently I have a WD TV (1st Gen) Media Player running B-Rad's WDLXTV firmware, however it refuses to play *.MP4 from iViewNapper.

If any of the suggested/recommended media players can also play *.MKV files with compressed headers that would be a welcome added bonus!

Any assistance most gratefully apprised, thank you.

[servalan]

I have had it recommended to me that Videolan VLC is the best media player for the iViewNapper output files.I have found that the easiest, most future proof solution to be a laptop with a HDMI connection connected directly to the TV. The laptop sees the TV as a giant monitor. Run VLC on the laptop as your media player. HDMI laptops can be found for not much more money than some media players.

[Yansky]

Hello,

I have a query about iViewNapper output files and hardware media players.

I have had it recommended to me that Videolan VLC is the best media player for the iViewNapper output files.

However I was wondering what a recommended hardware media player (for playing back onb a TV) would be?

Currently I have a WD TV (1st Gen) Media Player running B-Rad's WDLXTV firmware, however it refuses to play *.MP4 from iViewNapper.

If any of the suggested/recommended media players can also play *.MKV files with compressed headers that would be a welcome added bonus!

Any assistance most gratefully apprised, thank you.

If you "unwrap" the mp4 file that you downloaded with iviewNapper, it should play properly.

There are a variety of ways to do this; I wrote a firefox extension if you wanna try that out:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-mac.xpi
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2067588/flvuncontainer-0.3-fx-windows.xpi

FLVUnContainer Instructions: Once installed, select the tools menu in Firefox and then select Run FLVuncontainer and then select the file to unwrap and then where to save the unwrapped file to.

[Core Share]

@servalan: Yes, thank you, that would be the most astute solution I do agree, but I have to factor in intended users, so a black box solution is required.

@Yansky: Thank you very much, that worked a treat! The converted file plays happily on my WDTV(V1)/WDLXTV unit. Had to install a 9.0 FF alongside my customary 3.6.x FF - but that is why profiles were invented.

[TerryK]

I have found that the easiest, most future proof solution to be a laptop with a HDMI connection connected directly to the TV. The laptop sees the TV as a giant monitor. Run VLC on the laptop as your media player. HDMI laptops can be found for not much more money than some media players.

I tend to agree, with my old laptop & would just connect the video output to my HD recorder..only hassle being the cable.
But the new laptop is different so thought I would get a media player well to be honest it would have been easier to hook up the new laptop as it plays all types of media, works with SBS on demand & ABC Iview without stuffing around.

Looks like I will have to admit defeat (wife was right about wasting money on the black box) & go with a cable.
All this stuffing around downloading & converting to use does my head in.
BTW the files/ programs I downloaded from the ABC work a treat on the media player if only that could be done with all the videos on the site I would be happy.

Cheers Terry

[TerryK]

I tend to agree, with my old laptop & would just connect the video output to my HD recorder..only hassle being the cable.
But the new laptop is different so thought I would get a media player well to be honest it would have been easier to hook up the new laptop as it plays all types of media, works with SBS on demand & ABC Iview without stuffing around.

Looks like I will have to admit defeat (wife was right about wasting money on the black box) & go with a cable.
All this stuffing around downloading & converting to use does my head in.
BTW the files/ programs I downloaded from the ABC work a treat on the media player if only that could be done with all the videos on the site I would be happy.

Cheers Terry

Think I just found a way for the iview to work, just ordered a av cable for the wifes Ipad...hook it up to my HD recorder & it should work.
Fingers crossed, Terry