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Old 10-21-2010, 10:02 AM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


VGA from computer to monitor.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


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VGA from computer to monitor.
What exactly are you trying to record then? From what source?
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:38 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


I would like to record from xbox AND dish network dvr, 720p (one at a time, dont care if I have to switch some cables). If I have to choose one then dish network dvr 720p.

The original poster asked, "How to capture/record video from HDMI." (dish network hdmi in my case) Thats what I want to know.
One posters answer; "Just 2 steps.

Step1: Download screen video capture software and install it

Step 2: Adjust the settings if needed and click the Record button. If you have finished your recording, stop it, save the file and watch the playback."
That doesn't work for me.

It seems I'm switching away from my computer when switching monitor from vga to dvi in this case. But nobody said, in later posts, that wouldn't work... so I thought I had something wrong.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:13 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


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I would like to record from xbox AND dish network dvr, 720p (one at a time, dont care if I have to switch some cables). If I have to choose one then dish network dvr 720p.

The original poster asked, "How to capture/record video from HDMI." (dish network hdmi in my case) Thats what I want to know.
One posters answer; "Just 2 steps.

Step1: Download screen video capture software and install it

Step 2: Adjust the settings if needed and click the Record button. If you have finished your recording, stop it, save the file and watch the playback."
That doesn't work for me.

It seems I'm switching away from my computer when switching monitor from vga to dvi in this case. But nobody said, in later posts, that wouldn't work... so I thought I had something wrong.
The problem is that desktops and laptops usually come with HDMI out only, so you can't use it to get video on your computer. If you can't get any video, obviously you can't record video from screen.

Capture cards and standalone recorders like Hauppage HD PVR usually come with software allowing you to record video with audio on your computer.

Most probably HD content from Dishnetwork uses HDCP, so you will need to record video using component cables. You may need an HDMI to YPbPr Component converter.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:04 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


Thank you so much for your help. I'm slowly piecing this together.

I was hoping the $8 cable to my from my hdmi dvr to my monitor would be the answer. But its not. I can watch it, but cant record it.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:23 AM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


I have an AverMedia Capture card and it works well with a few caveats.

There is no loop-through on the card like the Blackmagic Intensity Pro. That means that the only way to view what you have plugged into it is through it's capture/monitor application on the PC.

At first this seemed like no big issue for me as I already have my xbox hooked up to my computer monitor and use a video switch to go back and forth between it and my pc. Only issue is that there is a pretty noticeable lag. 400 to 500ms I would say. There is no way you can play W@W, MW2, BOPS, etc. this way. You just die a lot.

The only solution was an active(powered) HDMI splitter. I split the signal from my xbox with one going to the capture card and one going to my computer monitor. I have a second monitor on my PC so I use that to fire up the capture software. The splitter does introduce a perceptible amount of noise into the image which is not show stopping, but it is undesirable.

So now I could capture and play at the same time.

On to the next issue. The Avermedia capture app is bit rate capped at 15K. This wasn't fast enough for full detail. I was not able to get the cards signal in any other app such as Premiere or Virtual Dub so I was stuck with their app. It also uses some bad compression settings that you can't change. So the resulting video had compression artifacts and other issues.

The solution was simple since the capture app monitored uncapped and uncompressed. I use FRAPS to capture the AverMedia window. FRAPS works great at this and has a lot of options for capturing. It has a great native format that while big, keeps a lot of detail around for when you recompress.

So the AverMedia is a lot cheaper initially. But after buying a splitter and FRAPS, it gets closer to the BlackMagic price. I have not used a BlackMagic so I cannot speak to how well it works, and how its software is. But on the face of it it would eliminate the splitter and potentially FRAPS depending on how its sofwtare works. I know it also will work with Virtual Dub, Premiere, Vegas Pro, etc.

I have heard of some compatibility issues with the Blackmagic and X58/Core i7 based computers though which is why I have not purchased one myself.

P.S. You'll need a fast disk to record HD video. I find that to record video from the XBox with the AverMedia and FRAPS, I need to be able to sustain around 110 MBytes/s. A single disk will not do this. I run 4 disks in a RAID 0 array. A 2 disk array should work though.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:37 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


Hey stoneym,

Thanks a lot for a great review.

When talking about compatibility issued of Blackmagic cards, are they related to Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle only or to Blackmagic Intensity Pro as well?
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:25 AM
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How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


Just use Elgato EyeTV HD. All Elgato products are awesome!
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:25 AM
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How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


I used EasyCap in the past and it is just a piece of useless crap.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:16 PM
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Re: How to capture/record video from HDMI (record game play from XBox 360, PS3 to PC)


Hey, you can record video from HDMI easily with some program. I always use some screen recorder to help record video from my desktop. And the quality is also good.
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