Video stream capturing from silverlight from the nbcolympics.com

[Stream Ripper]

Originally Posted by deff

Yea, I know its safe to use WMCapture since its purely analog, but im talking about if I record a stream from a live event using WM Recorder/packet sniffer(you can do that with WM Recorder with their live streaming videos)

The reason I ask is because they say that they have digitally watermarked the videos, so they can telll where they came from. Im not familiar with Silverline, I usually record from encrypted wmv streams only.
Does silverline add any of my computers info into the video so that it can be tracked to my pc/IP? Sounds a bit bizzare if they would do this, but I dont know, there isnt even drm on the files they stream...seems too easy.

You know, i'm not a programmer of this type of software so I can't say for 100% certain. But from what I understand from Alex (the WMR programmer)...all they think is that you're just another happy customer watching their videos and they have no way of knowing if your'e watching it, or recording it..looks the same to them.

Originally Posted by deff

Yea, I know its safe to use WMCapture since its purely analog, but im talking about if I record a stream from a live event using WM Recorder/packet sniffer(you can do that with WM Recorder with their live streaming videos)

The reason I ask is because they say that they have digitally watermarked the videos, so they can telll where they came from. Im not familiar with Silverline, I usually record from encrypted wmv streams only.
Does silverline add any of my computers info into the video so that it can be tracked to my pc/IP? Sounds a bit bizzare if they would do this, but I dont know, there isnt even drm on the files they stream...seems too easy.

Streaming video recorders should be used as personal archiving tools only. It means that you shouldn't distribute any recorded content. And obviously if you don't distribute anything, there is no difference whether a content provider is using watermarks or not.

When recording streaming content, you can be tracked in many cases. WM Recorder in the PRO mode (when recording Windows Media and Real Media streams), FLV Recorder and MovRecorder capture packets from your local computer. Other media stream recorders usually create a separate thread for recording (another one is used for playing your stream), that is why theoretically you can be detected.

[deff]

Originally Posted by Stream Recorder

Streaming video recorders should be used as personal archiving tools only. It means that you shouldn't distribute any recorded content. And obviously if you don't distribute anything, there is no difference whether a content provider is using watermarks or not.

When recording streaming content, you can be tracked in many cases. WM Recorder in the PRO mode (when recording Windows Media and Real Media streams), FLV Recorder and MovRecorder capture packets from your local computer. Other media stream recorders usually create a separate thread for recording (another one is used for playing your stream), that is why theoretically you can be detected.

'Yea ive noticed that, when I used to use proxy mode sometimes my stream I was watching would get cut (since there were 2 treams running). I use adapter mode now, I dont think adapter mode does this if I am not mistaken.

Thanks for the info--

deff

Originally Posted by deff

'Yea ive noticed that, when I used to use proxy mode sometimes my stream I was watching would get cut (since there were 2 treams running). I use adapter mode now, I dont think adapter mode does this if I am not mistaken.

You can read more about WM Recorder in its User guide. ADA mode is more reliable. However it is the PRO mode that allows to capture packets from your local Windows Media Player or Real Player, thus allowing you to record password-protected streams and some other streaming content that is hard to record.

Originally Posted by Big Dog

WM Capture is the only way to save the "rewind" or prerecorded streams. WM Recorder or Replay Media Catcher will save the "live" streams.

Big Dog, can WM Recorder be used to schedule recordings ? Also, is there some reason that WM Recorder can record the Olympic Broadcasts and Replay AV 8 can't? TX

[Stream Ripper]

Originally Posted by gotoguy

Big Dog, can WM Recorder be used to schedule recordings ? Also, is there some reason that WM Recorder can record the Olympic Broadcasts and Replay AV 8 can't? TX

Yes WM Recorder can Schedule Recordings, and quite well actually. Check out this portion of their User Guide for info on how to do this.

Also, WM Recorder should NOT be able to Record the olympics from nbcolympics.com as it's silverlight, and pretty difficult to capture by the means WM Recorder records. If it can record it, I would imagine it patchy at best. I've been in touch with the WM Capture/WM Recorder programmer PERSONALLY, and he assured me the best and only means for now at least, is WM Capture.

[wnrussell]

Originally Posted by Stream Ripper

Also, WM Recorder should NOT be able to Record the olympics from nbcolympics.com as it's silverlight, and pretty difficult to capture by the means WM Recorder records.

How about if you just uninstall Silverlight? I am trying to get Phelps #7 medal from the official NBC Olympics site. Does uninstalling Silverlight make the capture any better or easier?

[deff]

Originally Posted by wnrussell

How about if you just uninstall Silverlight? I am trying to get Phelps #7 medal from the official NBC Olympics site. Does uninstalling Silverlight make the capture any better or easier?

no, you have to have silverlight to watch it at all.

[wnrussell]

Originally Posted by deff

no, you have to have silverlight to watch it at all.

On most of the Olympic site pages, if you don't have Silverlight installed you get a button under the small embedded video to "Enlarge Video" on the main page and the clip still plays. If you have Silverlight installed, that option is greyed out, and the video pops up in a separate, new large window.

Has anybody found a source for these clips yet? I have tried everwhere, including capturing from Verizon VCast and then hacking the phone filesystem. The YouTube links for the real NBC flicks are being taken down as fast as they go up.

NBC also has a new peer to peer program NBC Direct BETA http://www.nbc.com/olympicsonthego/i...download.shtml

Thank's Big Dog. I've been using WM Capture but it's been freezing on me A LOT. I'm waiting for a response from tech support on the problem. Hopefully I'll get it before NBC pulls the files from their site :-( Thanks again.