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Old 12-13-2010, 06:01 PM
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Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


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Glad to be of help.
Thanks again.

One more question?

Given that the Iview (Original and Remux'd version) is some 30% larger than the direct download version; is the Iview version by definition; higher quality?

Here is a MediaInfo snap of two identical episodes of Rake series One, Episode 5.

ie 401 vs 555 Kbps

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Old 12-13-2010, 10:05 PM
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Given that the Iview (Original and Remux'd version) is some 30% larger than the direct download version; is the Iview version by definition; higher quality?
The "direct" download has a resolution of 512x288 and uses a lower bitrate.

The "remux" version has a resolution of 640x360 and uses a higher bitrate. The default of iView video on the web.

The remux version "may be" better because it is larger in resolution (more information in the image). I say "may be" because it depends on what resolution the original video was to start with.

Strictly speaking, the native resolution video will give a better image quality than one that has been up/down-scaled to another resolution. However, seeing as we don't know what the video resolution is that they start(ed) with, it is best to use your eyes to judge that (compare the two).
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:06 PM
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is the Iview version ... higher quality?
Yep, audio wise they are exactly the same quality, video wise the iView is higher.

In a technical sense the higher the bit rate the higher the quality, whether its a noticeable/significant difference is another matter altogether.
Also the resolution being higher means that on bigger displays the iview file will look better.

the problem with asking which is better is that it is very subjective and context variable with such a relatively small difference.

EDIT: Haha Anywho Just beat me to the punch.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:11 AM
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Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


Thanks Guys.

The "direct" download has a resolution of 512x288 and uses 401 Kbps

The "remux" version has a resolution of 640x360 and uses 555 Kbps

An Olin STB recorded version has a resolution 720x526 and uses 4739 (?) Kbps

So it appears that neither of the MP4's are in native resolution.

Here is MediaInfo for the Olin STB recording.


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Old 12-14-2010, 01:40 AM
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So it appears that neither of the MP4's are in native resolution.
Actually, the 640x360 is actually likely to be the native...

640 / 16 = 40, 360 / 40 = 9. The 16:9 ratio is maintained.

With the one from your Olin STB...

720 / 16 = 45, 576 / 45 = 12.8... The 16:9 ratio is not maintained.

So, what I think is happening is that STB's are upscaling the 640x360 video or, more likely, the video is transmitted from ABC as prescaled-up (dimesions required for PAL-TV standard transmissions in Oz.)

[edit: Note that the 512x288 also gives a 16:9 ratio - so again, either could be the original (or neither )]
[edit2: It doesn't half get ugly after reading Wikipedia on the subject of PAL, 576i, and Anamorphic widescreen. Bleh!]

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Old 12-14-2010, 05:39 AM
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:37 PM
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I cannot access a program called How To Be A Little S*d, presumably because of the asterisk in the name - the error reads Illegal characters in path. Is it possible iViewnapper could be enhanced so it does not try to use any illegal characters in filenames? Would be appreciated.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:20 PM
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I cannot access a program called How To Be A Little S*d, presumably because of the asterisk in the name - the error reads Illegal characters in path. Is it possible iViewnapper could be enhanced so it does not try to use any illegal characters in filenames? Would be appreciated.
The easiest solution is to use the Batch downloader, choose the show (menu choice 1), then BEFORE downloading it you need to edit the file download_list.xml (with Notepad) and change the * to o (then reads Sod), SAVE the xml file, THEN switch back to the batch file (still running) and download (menu choice 3).

I will be around (and can see this forum) for an hour or so, so send a PM or post a question here.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:28 PM
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I cannot access a program called How To Be A Little S*d, presumably because of the asterisk in the name - the error reads Illegal characters in path.
Hey! Thanks for this. I checked the batch file version and it was whining too (couldn't find file on the server was the resultant error message). I've fixed the batch file version now - v15.81 - with the links to it available from the Wikia page.

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The easiest solution is to use the Batch downloader, choose the show (menu choice 1), then BEFORE downloading it you need to edit the file download_list.xml (with Notepad) and change the * to o (then reads Sod), SAVE the xml file, THEN switch back to the batch file (still running) and download (menu choice 3).
Thank you for your support, buddy!
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:29 AM
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iviewfox is not working. Is there an update due soon?
I've tested the latest version (1.1.8) with OSX and Windows 7 and it worked ok for me. Do you have the latest version installed?

If so, please give me more details about how it's not working. What happened when you click on the "Watch Program" link after selecting a show. Does the save dialog box come up? Also, what's your operating system and ISP?
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