How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

[tilt]

Legal situation is covered in http://www.abc.net.au/copyright.htm

which includes this

# You may retrieve the ABC's materials for information only.
# You may save a local copy or send it to your printer for your own personal use or in order to inform authorised and potential users about the ABC materials. However, you may not make any charge for such use and any commercial exploitation is expressly prohibited.
© 2010 ABC
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So no selling it is permitted, and no changing it either. It sounds as if you can send an email or post it to a discussion board. And saving to your hard disk or DVD is OK as long as it is local and not a distribution.

[Yansky]

mce, looks like Malwarebytes might be throwing a false-positive on the napper progs: http://whrl.pl/Rcp21j

[Yansky]

Originally Posted by tilt

Legal situation is covered in http://www.abc.net.au/copyright.htm

which includes this

# You may retrieve the ABC's materials for information only.
# You may save a local copy or send it to your printer for your own personal use or in order to inform authorised and potential users about the ABC materials. However, you may not make any charge for such use and any commercial exploitation is expressly prohibited.
© 2010 ABC
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So no selling it is permitted, and no changing it either. It sounds as if you can send an email or post it to a discussion board. And saving to your hard disk or DVD is OK as long as it is local and not a distribution.

The terms of service for iView are different for the rest of the site though. Specifically: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/iview/faq.htm

ABC pays the owners of our content extra licensing fees to allow for it to be shown for at least 14 days online via iView. Streaming rights with the ABC are limited by a number of legal or business agreements that differ from program to program. A program must expire for many reasons, including music rights management, impending DVD sales and syndication deals. ABC is keen to support those content makers and therefore does not license content to be downloaded onto individual devices. Use of third party applications that allow downloadable versions of ABC iView programs is therefore unauthorised and not supported in any way.

Although you/I/we are not doing anything illegal, we are breaking the terms of service of the abc iview site.

[Anywho]

Originally Posted by conank

I wonder the legal issues whether we can share ours downloaded movies? Any idea

No. Sharing or re-distribution is a definite no-no and we won't talk about that here in this thread.

Originally Posted by Yansky

Although you/I/we are not doing anything illegal, we are breaking the terms of service of the abc iview site.

I guess the equivalent would be breaking 4C. of YouTube's TOS - and we know how many YouTube downloaders there are out there that YouTube don't "authorise".

[gxdata]

What's happened to the 7.30 Report (Thurs)? It's at the 7.30 website with small wmv and m4v files, but not on iView. That seems odd.

[darian]

Originally Posted by gxdata

What's happened to the 7.30 Report (Thurs)? It's at the 7.30 website with small wmv and m4v files, but not on iView. That seems odd.

It does not seem to appear in the index list with iviewnapper or iviewcmd.

However if you use iviewcmd to create a download entry for 08/09/10 and then manually edit the download_list.xml file to point to 09/09/10 instead of 08/09/10, then it will download.

I guess it is on the server, but not listed properly in the index (or else it has spurious characters that are confusing the index parser).

[gxdata]

Originally Posted by darian

However if you use iviewcmd to create a download entry for 08/09/10 and then manually edit the download_list.xml file to point to 09/09/10 instead of 08/09/10, then it will download.

I guess it is on the server, but not listed properly in the index (or else it has spurious characters that are confusing the index parser).

Good thinking! I did that, and it is now downloading OK.

[mce]

I see and can download that episode using iViewNapper 20100816 and iViewNapperLite 20100816 as "7.30 Report 08-09-10.mp4".

Maybe they just added it?!?!

[Anywho]

Originally Posted by mce

I see and can download that episode using iViewNapper 20100816 and iViewNapperLite 20100816 as "7.30 Report 08-09-10.mp4".

Maybe they just added it?!?!

No, "7.30 Report 08-09-10.mp4" has always been there. They wanted "7.30 Report 09-09-10.mp4". Unless you mean 08-09-10 is the same program as 09-09-10? It's not listed on the iView site and nobody has complained on their forum either (not very popular, eh?).

[gxdata]

As Anywho says, the Wed 8Sept 7.30 Report has been there a while, but as of today (Monday) the last for the week (Thurs) isn't. Maybe it will be remedied tomorrow.