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Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?Streaming media recorders (software capable of recording audio and video streams) such as Replay Media Catcher or WM Recorder are intended for use as personal archiving tools only. Please respect the rights of the copyright holders of any audio material you record.
If you like a broadcast you've recorded, please buy the media! Our web-site is not intended to be a replacement for the media stores, rather it allows you to listen/watch and make an educated purchase. There are many good reasons to buy music videos, movies and video tutorials:
There are a lot of means to protect streaming media from illegal copying and distribution including password-protection and Digital Rights Management (DRM) systems. You should also read the Terms of Service (ToS) carefully to make sure your stream recording will not violate it. Otherwise we strongly recommend not to make any recordings. We can record TV shows with a video cassette recorder, DVR, computer TV and it is not considered illegal. Why stream recording of online TV broadcasts should be considered illegal then? At the same time we do NOT support any illegal distribution of the recorded materials. 100% of video streams we know can be recorded using Screen capture software. We just try to describe a better approach so that our visitors don't waste their time and HD space. P.S.: If you are a content owner/distributor and you want any information about stream recording from your web-site to be removed from stream-recorder.com or all-streaming-media.com, please contact us. Please also make sure your visitors can easily find information prohibiting stream recording from your web-site. Last edited by Stream Ripper : 12-31-2012 at 12:03 AM. |
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?Applian Technologies, the developer of Replay AV, Replay Media Catcher, Replay Music and At-Large Recorder, has the following answers to legal questions:
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?There is a nice FAQ about fair use at the EFF's website
http://w2.eff.org/IP/eff_fair_use_faq.php Quote:
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?I think that more companies will end up in the law courts in the future surrounding the whole streaming video issue.
Check this news story out: seekingalpha.com: Reuters: Viacom /Google Battle Over YouTube Bears Enormous Significance Regards Dave |
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?I think if developers still sell software for video stream then it is legal. This software has been selling during few last years with any problems. So if our law doesn't prevent it I'm sure that it is legal.
However it is not the problem of users but the problem of law. |
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?Recording streaming videos is nothing more than a digital VCR. On regualr TV it's 100% legitimate fair use. The concept really doesn't change when you go digital. You are recording a streaming video (like TV show) for later enjoyment. In neither case are you supposed to share it and that's fair enough since anyone can watch online anyway.
Look up Sony Betamax case and you will find "Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)[1], also known as the "Betamax case", was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States which ruled that the making of individual copies of complete television shows for purposes of time-shifting does not constitute copyright infringement, but is fair use. The Court also ruled that the manufacturers of home video recording devices, such as Betamax or other VCRs (referred to as VTRs in the case), cannot be liable for infringement. The case was a boon to the home video market as it created a legal safe haven for the technology, which also significantly benefited the entertainment industry through the sale of pre-recorded movies." Studios hate this and since they lost the case they have tried everything including Orwellian disinformation to try to change the outcome. It is the digital millennium copyright act that congress passed that said you can't circumvent digital rights management which can be in transmissions. no where does it say you cant record. So if the stream is unencrypted then it is not illegal to record. The only issue is the TOS restricting your fair use. That TOS is different than copyright law. |
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?in my opinion. it will not matter a lot if it is for personal use
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?Yup it is illegal and considered as a piracy, if you're using it public-ally. But if you've record it for personal use only then it's not counted as illegal.
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Re: Is it legal to record video streams? Can it be considered as a piracy?In my opinion:
1. In the UK and most of Europe, making a recording of a music track or a radio or television programme can only be (at most) a breach of copyright. Thus it is only a matter for civil law (i.e. private law), not a criminal offence. You cannot be prosecuted. 2. It only becomes piracy if you sell copies of the recording, since that does (or could) amount to a criminal offence (typically, a charge of counterfeiting might be made out, or a charge of fraud, depending on the circumstances). As for the USA, Wikipedia has the following note - "Within the United States of America, but not in Europe or elsewhere, software which contains measures for circumventing copy-protection code may be in breach of the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA). It is considered that only software which removes encryption from an RTMP stream (i.e. which unencrypts an RTMPE stream) is affected by that Act, and only if that software is used in, or hosted on a server within, the United States." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Ti...aging_Protocol The problem lay with programs such as RTMPDUMP, which can record RTMPE streams. RTMPDUMP is no longer being developed or maintained within the USA, and has been replaced there by a fork known as FLVstreamer. It's my understanding that FLVstreamer was created as a solution that contains no code for recording an encrypted RTMP stream. So it appears that it does not breach the DMCA, as it can only record unencrypted streams. Last edited by Ed999 : 09-23-2010 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Clarification |
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