[xaboxa]

Due to fast upgrade of adult cams security against recording that are happening last several weeks,

I was thinking we should make an group / subforum / private section where we will discuss about this topic (how to & where from is recording possible, share knowledge etc.) As long as we are talking about this topic in public, cam site admins are upgrading security. I am not sure is that technically possible at this board but here is my opinion how should it look like.


First, there would have to be some rules on who and how could get access to it so we could talk freely.

Members who want access to this group (closed, private forum section) should wrote an apply for access message to the mods of this group. In that apply they would have to write what knowledge do they have (for example "I know how to record pvt cam streams from 5 different cam sites" or "I know how to get VOD archive from 3 cam sites." or "I know for imlive.com backdoor access." etc...).

Second, we have to see who would be "moderators" of that group.
I think that those have to be most experienced members considering adult cams recording. The "apply for" message should go to them and then they will decide is it enough for adding new member to the this private group / forum section.

After mods decide positively and add new member to this group / section he/she should not see any content as long as their post quality is not approved by moderators.

Procedure in step by step:
Step 1. Send an apply for message to this private group moderators.
Step 2. Moderators decide is apply for message worth adding to the group.
Step 3. After new member is added he has to make a thread sharing his knowledge.
Step 4. Moderators than decide is the content of posted thread good enough and give a new member full access to the group.
Step 5. If content is not useful new member can't access to threads as long as he post something useful.


At the moment I know "how to" record pvt cams from at least 5 cam sites, get VOD archives from at least 3, know one backdoor and some few things more but I am not sharing anything in public.


My inbox is full so do not send my pvt messages! Use my e-mail (add yahoo.com to my nick), thank you.

Friendly regards :)

[anon069]

I was a member of a group like that awhile back. Worked great for a bit until one of the members had an attack of conscience and decided to take everything he'd found in the group (not just what he himself knew) and send it directly to the admins of the various sites so they could plug their holes.

The whole show archive (500k+) from one site was lost, recording method on another, vod access & how to view the private/whisper chats on a third - it was ugly.

[xaboxa]

I was a member of a group like that awhile back. Worked great for a bit until one of the members had an attack of conscience and decided to take everything he'd found in the group (not just what he himself knew) and send it directly to the admins of the various sites so they could plug their holes.

The whole show archive (500k+) from one site was lost, recording method on another, vod access & how to view the private/whisper chats on a third - it was ugly.

Well, there is always a risk that could happen. Maybe he fall in love with some performer :D

However, we should choose members carefully, make some strict rules. It is hard and maybe it takes some time but I think it is not impossible. I already got few e-mails from people who are interested into joining this kind of a group. Basically, it would be enough to make a new subforum here, make it private and allow only a "new group" members access.

:)

[youzme]

Things like these don't last unless you make the criteria to get in EXTREMELY hard. Like, people laying out solid methods that they devised, or bringing exclusive private shows that aren't posted anywhere (I mean really rare shit, like Next Door Nikki getting gangbanged by a football team).

99% of the applications you get will be idiots reposting shit methods that are already public, or offering money to get in, or things that are even more banal.

The problem of dishonest moderators for exclusive private groups really has no solution. Sure, you could pick reputable guys from sites like these that devise methods, and then try to fill the group with quality contributing users; but who is to say that the admins won't let in people that make monetary offers to get in?

Whenever I've seen groups like these I've been in, new users get added to the list, and nobody really questions what they added, or even notices.

[xaboxa]

Things like these don't last unless you make the criteria to get in EXTREMELY hard. Like, people laying out solid methods that they devised, or bringing exclusive private shows that aren't posted anywhere (I mean really rare shit, like Next Door Nikki getting gangbanged by a football team).

99% of the applications you get will be idiots reposting shit methods that are already public, or offering money to get in, or things that are even more banal.

The problem of dishonest moderators for exclusive private groups really has no solution. Sure, you could pick reputable guys from sites like these that devise methods, and then try to fill the group with quality contributing users; but who is to say that the admins won't let in people that make monetary offers to get in?

Whenever I've seen groups like these I've been in, new users get added to the list, and nobody really questions what they added, or even notices.

I agree with all that you have said.

However, we could make an form of "appy for message" so new members should only fill up empty spaces on it or answer 5, 10 or 20 questions when requesting for access. Also, the best would be that we make a list of questions for that form together.

After new member apply for access to this group, all group members should vote or vouch for a new member to be accepted or not. It is better that we all have same voting rights than few of us. Of course, only few will have option to add member to the group. I think that would be fair enough that only after at least 50% of members has been given their vote it will be decided is new member going to be added or refused. This way monetary offers would not be possible to pass :)

[zhukov73]

i also agree. hope i could understand every step of procedure.
some days ago want to open new thread, with some suggestions about a couple of sites from where i record prv session, but i thought it could not be a good idea.
so ill check how to do it to ask to join the group and i can give this info on pm, for the moment.
ciao ciao

[xaboxa]

This private group is an idea at the moment but considering fact how many people sent e-mails asking about it, it looks like we are going to have completely new board (not here at this great SR forum board). I thought that forum mods or admins would join into discussion. At least by telling few words, is it technically possible, do they agree with it etc. Unfortunately, until today there wasn't a word from them. By the way, there wasn't many replies by SR forum members neither.

Those are the reasons (especially the 1st one mentioned above) we are going to make a brand new forum board. Making it is not an easy and fast process so it will take some time (maybe week or two). At the moment we are making an list of people who are interested into it and as soon as board is ready you all will be notified by e-mail.

Please, do not send any messages to forum mods and admins considering this topic because they already have to much job cleaning board from spam topics and they are not taking a part into this idea.

Also, my inbox here is almost full so use e-mail for contacting.

Thank you :)

[foolonthehilll]

Sorry for my english.

I understand the idea of creating a "private" board to prevent webcam site to fix some of their bug or default based on the explanation posted here.
But I also understand that such forum are created to share knowledge. Here I learned the existence and how to use rtmpdump and for a while been able to record shows from a certain site and I am thankful for that.
If such a private group is ever created it would be in opposition of the sharing idea of the forum and probably its place would be in a forum of its own.
Selfishly speaking I would not be able to contribute to such group as my technical skills are near to zero (once, something like 10 years ago I was able to use a voyeur view of one site to get the video stream from one site....but happened by mistake). I think if the applying procedure only involved "how to" knowledge this group should be on a different site, also private :).

Regards

[xaboxa]

Sorry for my english.

I understand the idea of creating a "private" board to prevent webcam site to fix some of their bug or default based on the explanation posted here.
But I also understand that such forum are created to share knowledge. Here I learned the existence and how to use rtmpdump and for a while been able to record shows from a certain site and I am thankful for that.
If such a private group is ever created it would be in opposition of the sharing idea of the forum and probably its place would be in a forum of its own.
Selfishly speaking I would not be able to contribute to such group as my technical skills are near to zero (once, something like 10 years ago I was able to use a voyeur view of one site to get the video stream from one site....but happened by mistake). I think if the applying procedure only involved "how to" knowledge this group should be on a different site, also private :).

Regards

I must fully agree with all that you have said. This board is great and I have learned many things here too. However, there is no other way than making completely new board where we could discuss about this topic and share our knowledge in private. Few days ago I have realized that all boards here are open to public and even to guests :)

By the way, private board is almost finished. It is not "the last word of a science" but it will do the job. We just have to add tutorials about recording and getting vod archives for each camsite we know in it's own thread (at least 4 camsite for getting pvt shows and 5 for getting vod archives).

Anyone will be able to register at board but getting full access would not be so easy...

[Stream Ripper]

Let me check with the owner of this board.

I want to see if:
A.) This is LEGAL (just as it's legal to record using DVR's etc, for PERSONAL use only)
B.) This is possible

Stay tuned

[Stream Ripper]

Heya Guys,

It’s legal – and possible – but some of the other posters raise good points about the effectiveness of having a private forum. I’m not sure it’s worth the effort – especially policing members.

Customers can always record using Screen Capture (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-from-screen/) software such as Replay Video Capture (http://applian.com/replay-video-capture/) – and there’s no way to stop it. While not as convenient, it’s foolproof.

[xaboxa]

Thank you Stream Ripper for your reply. I will also agree with you same as I was with foolonthehilll :)

However, policing members is not so hard if you have efficiently organized member groups. Considering procedure for getting full access most likely will result in an small number of trusted members. Getting in requires some efforts so I am sure there will not be 10000+ or 1000+ trusted members with full access. To be honest I don't expecting more than 50 of them after a year (btw I think that is too much). Also it is very important to keep board non public so we will do as much as we can to keep it like that (this rule no.2 "It is forbidden to publicly advertise our board or post it's link at any blog, forum board or social network. If you wanna invite some new members do that discretely by sending him private message or e-mail.)

I think board will be online by the evening. All members that were sent me e-mail for getting in will be informed by e-mail too.

[david_kh91]

wow very nice idea i'm in :p :D

BTW thanks a lot Stream Ripper for asking thumbs up :cool:

but soon the dark knights will ruined everything :( :mad:

[xaboxa]

Little statistics ;)

Today is the fifteenth (15) day of that private board is online. There are little bit more than 10 trusted members. We got 9 cam sites where from is possible to get pvt shows and 13 cam sites where from is possible to get archives.

Because of that getting in is harder and harder every day. However, if you are a true cam lover and you have some skills in flash & rtmp accessing it could not be so hard. One of the most important thing is that you are willing to share knowledge and your skills with other trusted members which are doing the same.

Please do not send private messages to stuff or me asking how to get in. The only way for requesting access is by sending an e-mail to me (just add yahoo.com at my nick here).

[nash28]

Unfortunately the board has gone offline due to a violation of the board rules..:-(

[xaboxa]

Unfortunately the board has gone offline due to a violation of the board rules..:-(

It looks like it was adult content problem. We have contacted them 2 days ago but they have not reply at all. It is very likely that everything posted is lost.

If anyone of you find an free board hosting that allows adult content please notify me using PM. Thanks

[wannabe19800]

It looks like it was adult content problem. We have contacted them 2 days ago but they have not reply at all. It is very likely that everything posted is lost.

If anyone of you find an free board hosting that allows adult content please notify me using PM. Thanks

hi i have sent u email. plz reply. ok?

[sweetguy]

Little statistics ;)

Today is the fifteenth (15) day of that private board is online. There are little bit more than 10 trusted members. We got 9 cam sites where from is possible to get pvt shows and 13 cam sites where from is possible to get archives.

Because of that getting in is harder and harder every day. However, if you are a true cam lover and you have some skills in flash & rtmp accessing it could not be so hard. One of the most important thing is that you are willing to share knowledge and your skills with other trusted members which are doing the same.

Please do not send private messages to stuff or me asking how to get in. The only way for requesting access is by sending an e-mail to me (just add yahoo.com at my nick here).

Thats nice and gr8 to have such group but
can it be available to people like me who dont know anything abt flash or related stuff. I can post stuffs but dont know much how to go through stuff like this

Waiting for your reply
Thanks in advance

[xaboxa]

Thats nice and gr8 to have such group but
can it be available to people like me who dont know anything abt flash or related stuff. I can post stuffs but dont know much how to go through stuff like this

Waiting for your reply
Thanks in advance

No.

This group was not about sharing or publishing anything. Especially not recordings. If someone wanna be a part of it he must know some things about recording that he has to share and give in order to get some other information and knowledge in return.

By the way, I am afraid that if we don't find reliable online platform for making forum boards that allows adult content soon, we will not make a new one at all...

[sweetguy]

No.

This group was not about sharing or publishing anything. Especially not recordings. If someone wanna be a part of it he must know some things about recording that he has to share and give in order to get some other information and knowledge in return.

By the way, I am afraid that if we don't find reliable online platform for making forum boards that allows adult content soon, we will not make a new one at all...

Thanks a lot for a soon reply
Hope so i get some knowledge first to share with you all
No problems at all and its nice that you have a strict private group

Thanks again

[xaboxa]

If anyone of you guys has saved private board rules, application form (step 1 questions) and my contribution form (step 2 questions) please send them to my e-mail. Thank you.

[Larry]

Gee.... I just learn of this board now, and its already offline..

oh well!

[pixe11]

must have missed this thread ,and its already gone :mad:

[xaboxa]

Well guys guess what - private board is coming online back again !!!

This time board is part of another board which is alive for several years already. You will be very interested to know that board could not be searched by google or other search engines. Also, our private subforum board has it's own password so even the members of the hosting board don't have access to it !

I did pay high attention to who can see it's content and this is the best possible and most secured solution at the moment to stay non public :)

Anyone who is interested to join is free to send me private message and I will be given the instructions how to do that. What I would like you to know is the fact that anyone who want access to it will have to answer on 2 application forms. However answering will not guarantee you access because actual members will decide together about every application. Members that had "trusted" status at our previous private board and that have access to everything will get the access without any requests (you are free to apply) - well deserved already.

Some technical informations:
* If you can not send me private message because of my full inbox be patiend and try to send PM next day.
* My reply to you may not come stright away but be sure I will reply to you all.
* I will need few days to fill up all the threads at new board so be patient.

[xaboxa]

Just to add little update:
threads: 103
posts: 595

[williseverything]

i'm really sad that i was not accepted in the group , its like a dream for me but .....

i contacted you in email xaboxa as last hope

[Caaz]

Howdy folks.

I joined Xaboxa and a handful of others on the project a while ago and have met with a few other good people with a working knowledge of adult cams and as a group have made a lot of progress. If you think you have something to contribute to what we're working towards, feel free to drop xaboxa a message.

[webcamxxx]

does the info on how to get eurolive pvt (for free ofcourse) will get me in the private group? :)

[xaboxa]

does the info on how to get eurolive pvt (for free ofcourse) will get me in the private group? :)

Considering the group and it's content, you will need a lot more than 1 cam site...

[webcamxxx]

Considering the group and it's content, you will need a lot more than 1 cam site...

I left a pm... not sure if you received it

[Striker10]

The problem is this guy went to create his own forum - that basically got taken down as it broke the terms and conditions but folks had already contributed and then you see him as a mod on this other site lol but if you fail to quality to get in? Don't worry you can always donate. Begs the question how long he's been a mod and what he did with the information people contributed.

Sorry, but it reeks don't it?

[webcamxxx]

Considering the group and it's content, you will need a lot more than 1 cam site...

considering that no one else knows how to do it and also that there are people who would pay big money for this one info about euro... I think it should do it...

maybe the members of the group could vote for it? How many members are there so far?

[xaboxa]

The problem is this guy went to create his own forum - that basically got taken down as it broke the terms and conditions but folks had already contributed and then you see him as a mod on this other site lol but if you fail to quality to get in? Don't worry you can always donate. Begs the question how long he's been a mod and what he did with the information people contributed.

Sorry, but it reeks don't it?

Do you know about how much time it took me to create first board ? To write everything and to organize ? I am sure you don't. Further what do you think who was the most mad person after they shut down the previous board ? After everything created and few months of efforts board was down with a single click. Moths of effort gone in second. And I was so stupid that I did not saved anything of the posted content.

Maybe you should think twice before you accuse someone for something. I became mod at another board recently. After a months of activity and contribution to the board. After I become a mod it turned out that board has it's own staff section and I saw the chance to recreate the private board again within it. And yes, in order to qualify for being a member of it there were the same conditions as at the first private board. You have to be willing to share with the others the things you know. Trust and the sharing is something you can not find lately anymore. And you are well aware that you did not have anything to contribute to the second board. As members decide about accepting or no new board members together, you could expect not be accepted.

And the thing with the donation is biggest scam you mentioned in your post. Neither me, or anyone else earn a single cent from the board or posted informations. I saw here many people trying to make out money from their recording applications. Famous lurk4 (which I never had) was also paid service. Some other were asking money for their rtmpdump builds and yet you are talking about some kind of donation to the board which never was. Furthermore, I was even PM-ed here to sell informations about recording of some popular cam sites which I refused.

Instead of accusing me or board for something which is not, you could send e-mail. But, maybe this is better. I got good reason to post some facts about it.

I meet some really great people in past few months that became private board members. We talk a lot and we have share a lot. Much more than members here could expect. What is even better, we became friends and have an community like other could possibly only dream off.

Donation or money is not something that makes you part of the team...

[webcamxxx]

Do you know about how much time it took me to create first board ? To write everything and to organize ? I am sure you don't. Further what do you think who was the most mad person after they shut down the previous board ? After everything created and few months of efforts board was down with a single click. Moths of effort gone in second. And I was so stupid that I did not saved anything of the posted content.

Maybe you should think twice before you accuse someone for something. I became mod at another board recently. After a months of activity and contribution to the board. After I become a mod it turned out that board has it's own staff section and I saw the chance to recreate the private board again within it. And yes, in order to qualify for being a member of it there were the same conditions as at the first private board. You have to be willing to share with the others the things you know. Trust and the sharing is something you can not find lately anymore. And you are well aware that you did not have anything to contribute to the second board. As members decide about accepting or no new board members together, you could expect not be accepted.

And the thing with the donation is biggest scam you mentioned in your post. Neither me, or anyone else earn a single cent from the board or posted informations. I saw here many people trying to make out money from their recording applications. Famous lurk4 (which I never had) was also paid service. Some other were asking money for their rtmpdump builds and yet you are talking about some kind of donation to the board which never was. Furthermore, I was even PM-ed here to sell informations about recording of some popular cam sites which I refused.

Instead of accusing me or board for something which is not, you could send e-mail. But, maybe this is better. I got good reason to post some facts about it.

I meet some really great people in past few months that became private board members. We talk a lot and we have share a lot. Much more than members here could expect. What is even better, we became friends and have an community like other could possibly only dream off.

Donation or money is not something that makes you part of the team...

now more than ever I want to be a part member of the board :)

[wizard]

Hello everyone,

It has past more than a year from the last reply here. For all that time many of the things have been changed. Unfortunately in a bad way. Most of the adult cam sites have been updated or even upgraded their security measures against recording of the private streams patching most of the exploits. I guess that many of the members lost interest considering this topic also so there was not much activity in general.

However, I am sure that this period of long inactivity is the best reason to post a reply here. The private board is also back online after hosting board had some technical difficulties. The good news is that there are still number of working exploits.

What I would like is to invite everyone that are interested into adult cam streams to send me an message and see if they qualify to join us. Due to the latest upgrades and updates made by cam site admins joining the private board is now requiring a bit more than before. What I would like is to met more people that are into java, adobe flash, coding, scripting, compiling/decompiling of swf etc... By working together and combining the knowledge each one of us have could be the fastest and easiest way to the discovering of the new exploits as it was always. By the way, knowing of working exploits that we actually don't have already shared at the board could be the fastest way to join.

What I would like to add also is that the board is really small and trusted community having small number of members (as it is not easy to qualify for the access) so you should not be worried that anything shared will be compromised.

Therefore, if adult cam pvt streams are sphere of your interest, you have the time and some knowledge about them in general and you would like to met some new people that are interested into same subject sending a PM to me would be the best place to start.

Looking forward to see you, friendly regards, wizard ;)