How to capture Elluminate live and player VCR files (VCR player included)

[martie]

Hello there, so basically i want to download elluminate live videos, elluminate is bit like adobe connect which is used for providing lectures and classes online. The thing is no media capturing software will let me download the streams like they normally do with say youtube videos, where it is cached and then audit detects and downloads. i was told its like a java stream or something.

I basically dont want to spend 3 hours watching the whole lecture again, and putting camtasia on for 3 hours, which end up having MASSIVE files, and take ages to render. Is there any program thats bit like normal media rippers, that will download and cache the lectures and download without me having to spend hours sitting there watching camtasia record it?

thanks

[martie]

sorry for the bump, but does anyone know if its possible to record elluminate videos other than using screen video capture software software like camtasia, and spending 3 hours watching the screen? Somoe must know.

[placebo]

i dont know what elluminate is and i am not willing to google it. this is your problem and your task. if you want help from us, you have to provide all the details and info. so.

can you provide testpage url (video link!)?
if it requires a login (usrass), then provide it too. otherwise how shall we look into this?

you can trust us

[martie]

Hi there, so this is the link to Elluminate _http://www.elluminate.com/

It is basically like adobe connect, its sued for teaching large groups and lectures, its java based product, so it doesn't stream like youtube.

you can login here _https://sas.elluminate.com/site/external/launch/meeting.jnlp?sid=&password=M.E5894B9B6CC10F0F3D66E D802CE00B

Just enter any user you want, you should log in, there wont be any video there, but basically when u login the whole right hand side white board is where slides can be used.

You could probably try the free trial, and just do a test read of a lecture for example. Basically it is like, when a lecture starts we click on the link for the lecture, and it will take load Elluminate, and take us to the class, where the actual moderator of the room can begin recording. Thing is my lectures are 3 hours long, so I don't want to spend 3 hours trying to record it, as i tryed it using Camtasia and another product and only 30 mins came about to over 50 gigs. I was hoping there was something like downloading it and having it buffered and cached like other media software does. I'm not to sure because if this is java programme its hard to do.

[placebo]

thanks martie. those sessions are not videos in the common sense. also because they involve mostly "windows" or "windows screens" and no real video material (like Rocky VI, Rambo III, or game trailers). when we want to save typical screens (screenshots of a ordinary Windows application) the most appropriate FORMAT is *.gif, and not *.jpeg. VLC media player's default screenshot format is *.png (which is a lossless format) and other image processing software (Photoshop, PaintShop Pro) use their own image format. But typically, when you have a Java application (e.g. a textual email written in OpenOffice with primitive graphical objects, no photos), the image format which results in the smallest file size is GIF.

With Elluminate i dont see any real photographical video material, so if Camastasia produces 50GB for a 3h-session, then it is the wrong software.

There are highly-specialized screen capturing programs for your type of screens ("GIF-screens") which produce high-quality small-sized video files, see for example the Kelby Training videos.

Apparently Kelby doesnt use stream recorders to author their videos. They use primitive screen capturing software. If you want to produce videos similar to Kelby, then ask Kelby support team (and not me ).

And to answer your question: No, Elluminate has nothing to do with video streams and therefore cant be recorded in original quality from the streaming server (because there isnt such a thing!). The only way to producing good satisfactory "videos" of your session is thru the Kelby method.

Good luck.

[martie]

Ok right I see, that rtmp.exe stuff looks very complicated, it also says mask my ip as well, which i have no clue how to do. Oh well I guess its back to sititng in front of the screen for 3 hours and letting replay video capture record it from 3 hours, oh god.

Thanks for all the help anyway.

[placebo]

Excellent work KSV!!
I will try to test your program later too, it's weekend..

Originally Posted by placebo

And to answer your question: No, Elluminate has nothing to do with video streams and therefore cant be recorded in original quality from the streaming server.

sometimes i feel like talking shi*.
wouldnt harm anybody.
bygones.

[xq1]

bumping thread for elluminate 10

with elluminate 10 there appears to be wrinkle.

in the previous version of elluminate I would take the vcr link from the jnlp file create an html link and save the web page. I would then do a save as on this link to save the vcr file.

In elluminate 10 - nothing downloads it just sits there and times out.

ideas?

[xq1]

Originally Posted by xq1

bumping thread for elluminate 10

with elluminate 10 there appears to be wrinkle.

in the previous version of elluminate I would take the vcr link from the jnlp file create an html link and save the web page. I would then do a save as on this link to save the vcr file.

In elluminate 10 - nothing downloads it just sits there and times out.

ideas?

downloaded wget for windows and it downloaded file - will now try and work through process - will update results!

[Meractik]

Originally Posted by xq1

bumping thread for elluminate 10

with elluminate 10 there appears to be wrinkle.

in the previous version of elluminate I would take the vcr link from the jnlp file create an html link and save the web page. I would then do a save as on this link to save the vcr file.

In elluminate 10 - nothing downloads it just sits there and times out.

ideas?

I hear this... I love the idea of this process just wish we could get it to work with Elluminate 10 - I am able to extract the URL from the *.jnlp file from within the <argument> XXXXXXX </argument> tags at the end of the *.jnlp file (when open in notepad)

The filesizes match up but when downloading the file it results in a *.EVENT file which when I rename to *.VCR and attempt to drag into the updated KSV Elluminate Player batch file and It tries to load even though the batch says "This file requires a different version of elluminate player." Java goes and it does the processes but then right at the time when its supposed to pull the file I get a GUI error that says "Unable to Play" - "Unable to load the URL "file:/Demo.vcr" Unable to open recording file. \Demo.vcr (The system cannot find the file specified)

It does this every time I try to play ANY of my VCR files through the batch file.... It even shows this GUI error when attempting to load the demo.vcr file included in the updated zip file... (when attempting to play the included demo.vcr the CLI DOES NOT show the error "This file requires a different version of elluminate player."

Any help anyone can provide with some PM's or replies to this thread would be much appreciated, I really want to get this working