Conversion to Windows Media(WM) of embedded programs(AvaCaster and Camtasia programs)

Help!
I have 2 different clients that have supplied me with training programs that I need to get converted to Windows media. One of the clients has AvaCaster material and the other one is a "CAMTASIA" created program that runs on a a flash platform. The Flashed based programs I have on CD, but they are a collection of embedded files that will only run when I click the icon for microsoft explore/html and then the program will play. I cannot see the audio files on the disk, I have to assume that they are embedded in the Flash programming.
the AVACASTER program is similar in that I can only get it to run when I click the Icon, no audio files are visible, but I can see lots of graphics slides.
Do I need to use a screen grab program(suggestions?) to get these captured real time or is there a converter that will do the trick?

any help is welcome.
Thom