RTMP working only inside page

[zeds]

Hello,

in the past, I used to be able to watch and/or download RTMP streams from sites without actually needing to have the respective webpage opened with Flowplayer running in order to succeed. I used Orbit, FLVPlayer, ect, without problems.

Now, recently, it seems that this got corrected or patched somehow - what I stumbled upon is a rtmp:// address which works correctly when played in the original website, but which cannot be reproduced or downloaded with any external software I tried.

Only GetFLV was able to start the download, but it has to keep the page open and there's no way of directly inputting the URL.

I'm not an expert on streams and such, so I don't know if it's a matter of SWF protection, secure token or stuff like that - the point is, I wanted to ask you if there is a program that can view and/or record (viewing is enough, as then I'd use a desktop capture program) any rtmp:// (not rtmpe:// or rtmps://) url by inserting it directly in the program and not having to have the webpage open.

Thank you in advance!

P.S.: yes, I've tried rtmpdump, it gives me a "client and signature do not match" or something like that error.