[consultant]

Just some more info to add to the mix...

I'm using my older notebook as my newer one is in the shop being repaired. Both run Win XP. I noticed that on this old notebook the Yahoo Jukebox setting for adding tracks to My Music was not set to download the song to the local drive. It is running WMP 10.

So I changed the setting. Downloaded a song. Attempted to play it. Got a Yahoo Warning with the Play button grayed out even though I was logged in. However when I went to play the local downloaded copy of the song a second time, it played. So I'm assuming I got the warning because it needed to download the DRM files from Yahoo.

So I downloaded the latest copy of fairuse4wm 1.3 fix 2. Didn't do anything else. Ran it, recovered the keys, and successfully removed the DRM from the song I downloaded of Yahoo. I of course deleted the song thereafter since I didn't buy it.

But I never got any prompt to upgrade my Yahoo Music Jukebox, WMP, or anything. I went and viewed the IBX version of IndivBox.key in c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM and it is version 11.0.5497.6285 !

So if people say their unDRM software has stopped working recently and their IBX is the 11.0.6000.6324 version, AND it is happening on both Vista AND XP, then this means it is a problem with Windows Media Player 11. It appears you don't get the new uncompatible IBX if you are running an older version of WMP.

Seems to me what happened is that a fairuse4wm version was released (1.3 fix 2) that worked with WMP 11 and everyone got all excited and upgraded to WMP 11 because of it and ended up screwing themselves as Microsoft is focusing on releasing 'fixes' (or in the case of unDRM software 'breaks') to only the latest version of WMP.

I thought the IBX was independent of the Media Player though. As you can see even though I'm running WMP 10, my IBX version starts out at 11. So it seems to indicate that Microsoft is pushing different IBX's for different versions of WMP, OR, they (or Yahoo or Napster, etc.) just aren't requireing an IBX update if you aren't running WMP 11?