For the first stream you can also use my console youtube downloader. It can save the stream to your hard drive or send it directly to VLC.
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/dum...-t15019p4.html
Code:
youtubedl -u http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmBS-DCNgg -o - | "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -