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Thanks for the info, somehow I found a way to "legally" download their videos without all the tedious work. I am not yet a premium member of the site. It is jamplay.com, so I was only able to test download their free lessons. I just used Quicktime Pro with it's save function, luckily the site operators didn't lock out their vids from this function (maybe because they didn't expect someone would play it on a 3rd party player). I said from my starting post that I have confirmed from the company itself that it is allowed to use 3rd party players, so by that I assumed sniffing the hidden urls are allowed as well. Now I am thinking if they are capable of knowing if I had saved the vid after streaming..then again maybe not, its impossible :P