[awebber]

Thanks -- I do not want to hide the player - only want to prevent the stream from flowing to users when the player is off.

I use several of this player on same page so design wise do not want to use a different one. No other stream that i have found has this problem.

as far as hiding - only hiding the pause button would be useful as it does not always stop the stream - it just stops you hearing the stream. Using the stop button does stop the stream -- well except for the stream I am speaking of in this topic