Thanks, but I did try snoop this afternoon without any success. I wonder if they have a new policy of really hiding their URL's. I would much rather avoid having to record in real time, as it takes over the whole PC, as well as the time involved. Apart from snoop is there a way of getting the URL's. I've tried
WM Recorder, RMrecorder, trying to dismantle the files, but I guess it is being hidden behind javascript, of which I have no knowledge. A demo of BBC ripper did seem promising, but it seems very much a black box, and so is probably difficult if not impossible to dig out the URL from that. Also the full prog is very expensive for what you get. Any other thoughts? Is there anyone here you is actually at present managing to download what they want from BBC radio4 or indeed any other beeb station, and what URL would they be using.