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Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group

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blok 05-10-2008 01:09 PM

Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
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***info last updated 2011-04-25 snip***
preferred method: RTMPDUMP. the most straight-forward method here. NO PAID SUBSCRIPTION OR REGISTRATION NEEDED. simply adjust the rtmpe url manually to download any training video!

alternative method, ALT1: rtmpexplorer. works if the video webpage plays fine in the internal browser. for paying subscribers only.

alternative method, ALT2: GetFLV and TubeDigger work if the video webpage plays fine in the internal browser. for paying subscribers only.

note: ALT1 and ALT2 dont work so well these days because Kelby webpages are horribly coded (with HTML errors and javascript errors) so that standalone InternetExplorer (and other browsers) have difficulties displaying the videos.
***info last updated 2011-04-25 snap***

Stream Recorder 05-19-2008 11:52 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blok (Post 27962)
I tried all for dl video from there ...now before give it up I have to ask here if someone can help me to dl this video

Code:

rtmp://win04.tpa.kelbymediagroup.com/vod|vod|kelby_retouch1/in|http://www.kelbytraining.com/images/online/mediaplayer.swf|http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/index.html&OBT_fname=in.flv
free sign up if you need it, there you can view 3 lessons of every class
I am a paying member of the site but I would like to be able to save the lessons, I travel a great deal in my job and would like to spent time to look them without being online.

Code:

http://www.kelbytraining.com/online/free-trial.html
Thanks for your help
Ole

There are only 4 RTMP Flash stream recorders. Please try all of them, 'coz none of them is perfect.

Stream Recorder 07-29-2008 01:49 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Try to record flash videos from kelbytraining.com with Replay Media Catcher 3.0.

blok 07-30-2008 07:18 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Thank you verry much for your help.:)

Stream Ripper 07-30-2008 10:35 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
The new Replay Media Catcher works fine, it was just updated and it's great!

Ghaldszar 08-05-2008 12:56 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stream Ripper (Post 6838)
The new Replay Media Catcher works fine, it was just updated and it's great!


Which version works in Kelbytraining.

I have same problem but I can't record/download/capture any video of Kelbytaining with any of those softwares were recommended.

Stream Ripper 08-05-2008 11:03 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghaldszar (Post 6879)
Which version works in Kelbytraining.

I have same problem but I can't record/download/capture any video of Kelbytaining with any of those softwares were recommended.

Did you un-isntall the old versiosn of Media Catcher before installing the new one?

Stream Recorder 08-06-2008 02:23 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Uninstall old version of Replay Media Catcher, reboot and install the latest one. This should solve most problems.

Also please read the user guide. Replay Media Catcher 3 can perfectly download kelbytraining videos.

Ghaldszar 08-06-2008 02:51 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stream Ripper (Post 6898)
Did you un-isntall the old versiosn of Media Catcher before installing the new one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stream Recorder (Post 6909)
Uninstall old version of Replay Media Catcher, reboot and install the latest one. This should solve most problems.


I didnt Because That was my first use of media catcher
I installed ver2.1 doesnt work at kelbytrining.com
and then I uninstalled it
I installed ver3,0 beta
but it didnt work too
is there any adjustment I dont know?

blukutux 12-29-2009 11:39 AM

Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Up till last week I was able to happily record Kelby Training streams with Replay Media Catcher ( latest update ), however today it won't capture them, pls help :(

Code:

http://www.kelbytraining.com/

noob2001204 12-29-2009 08:26 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
rtmpdump can download it

blukutux 01-10-2010 10:39 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
I have tried several packet dump and rtmp url finder like orbit grab++, coojah, url snooper etc but they can't capture kelbytraining rtmpe url :(


this is the sample url
Code:

http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/index.html#184
pls help

Stream Recorder 02-01-2010 08:10 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
RTMPE stream recording/downloading/capturing/ripping/saving

reset 02-07-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Kelby Training must be using a bulletproof version of Flash video player (LongTail Video, home of the JW Player) because GetFLV doesnt show anything and URL Snooper shows only ajax change&token data, browser ver. and but no video data.


Any thoughts on how to capture KT vids?

Detteeren 04-17-2010 07:12 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
I have downloaded and installed GetFLV v. 8.9.0.1.

When I try to play a Kelby Video in the FLV Browser I get the following error message ”Please make sure you have JavaScript enabled and Flash Player installed.”. I only get the message in GetFLV not when I play the video in my browser.

What am I doing wrong?

Poulbot 04-18-2010 01:34 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Code:

http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/index.html#184
With rtmpdump there is no problem for videos on this site.
Example :

Code:

rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://flashmedia.kelbymediagroup.com/vod/mp4:promos/promos/ot_player_overview.flv" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -o Ot_Player_Overview.flv

Detteeren 04-18-2010 09:46 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Hi PoulBot,

I can download the video from your example code, but I can not figure out what the code should be for the link:

Code:
http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/...27/lesson\3114

Thanks!

Poulbot 04-18-2010 11:48 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Hi Detteeren,

Code:

rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://flashmedia.kelbymediagroup.com/vod/mp4:promos/white_cs5_id_power_session/day1.flv" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -o Detteeren.flv

Detteeren 04-19-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Hi Poulbot,

Thanks! :)

Can you please point me in the right direction of sniffing the URL?

Stream Recorder 04-19-2010 10:42 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Detteeren (Post 18355)
Can you please point me in the right direction of sniffing the URL?

How to find RTMPE stream URLs

Detteeren 04-20-2010 03:26 PM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Thanks!

getflv 04-01-2011 01:10 AM

Re: Can't capture Kelby Training videos


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Detteeren (Post 18267)
I have downloaded and installed GetFLV v. 8.9.0.1.

When I try to play a Kelby Video in the FLV Browser I get the following error message ”Please make sure you have JavaScript enabled and Flash Player installed.”. I only get the message in GetFLV not when I play the video in my browser.

What am I doing wrong?

Please download and install GetFLV 9.0 to check it again.

rocksy79 04-08-2011 06:01 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Just tried the new GetFLV 9.0 trial, and is not working...
It shows me only something like : _www.kelbytraining.com/videos/ondemand in the link for every video clip i try...

chap 04-08-2011 09:44 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
RTMPdump also download easily.

KSV 04-08-2011 11:37 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Code:

rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://stream.kelbymediagroup.com/ondemand" -a "ondemand"
-f "WIN 10,2,153,1" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf"
-p "http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/index.html#tab\browse/category\cs5/course\218/lesson\3029"
-y "matt_cs5_ps_mastering_hdr/day3" -o day3.flv

RTMPDump v2.3 r568 (Compiled by KSV)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:  duration              171.43
INFO:  width                852.00
INFO:  height                480.00
INFO:  videodatarate        1000.00
INFO:  canSeekToEnd          TRUE
INFO:  videocodecid          4.00
INFO:  audiodatarate        128.00
INFO:  audiocodecid          2.00
INFO:  framerate            29.97
INFO:  creationdate          Fri Apr  9 14:41:18 2010
INFO:  Encoded_By            Kelby Training
INFO:  Encoded_By            Sorenson Squeeze
INFO:  Encoded_With          Sorenson Squeeze
15390.443 kB / 171.40 sec (99.9%)
Download complete


rocksy79 04-20-2011 12:24 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Sorry, just tried GetFLV 9.0.0.3 and have other problems with it: every time I choose a mene item, the flv browser signs me out. IN the player window, i don't see the courses to choose to play.
The single video that i was able to acces was the player introduction, and the link for it was the same "on demand", and not the complete link.

KSV, thanks for help!
However, rtmpdump seems almost like a foreign language to me. Do you know a good step by step tutorial for it? How can i detect the link for the flv, and what are "the other" that appear on the command line?

Thanks!

getflv 04-20-2011 09:36 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rocksy79 (Post 27700)
Sorry, just tried GetFLV 9.0.0.3 and have other problems with it: every time I choose a mene item, the flv browser signs me out. IN the player window, i don't see the courses to choose to play.
The single video that i was able to acces was the player introduction, and the link for it was the same "on demand", and not the complete link.

KSV, thanks for help!
However, rtmpdump seems almost like a foreign language to me. Do you know a good step by step tutorial for it? How can i detect the link for the flv, and what are "the other" that appear on the command line?

Thanks!

Please download GetFLV 9.0.0.5 to check your problem again.

ontheroad 04-22-2011 10:31 PM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
I'm having the same problem. I just tried version GetFLV 9.0.0.6 and it would not work. I really wish there was a program to download the videos so I can watch them while I'm on the road.

Sokaris 04-23-2011 01:34 PM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Same problem here too. I'm also a registered/paying member of Kelbytraining and love to view their videos offline. Tried GetFLV 9.0.0.6 but the browser interface within Getflv just doesn't show the navigation screen to select the courses. If that doesn't work the whole program is useless for downloading Kelbytraining videos. Hope it gets fixed soon.

placebo 04-24-2011 05:01 AM

Re: Can't record .flv rtmp:// flash video from kelbytraining.com with a stream recor


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokaris (Post 27944)
but the browser interface within Getflv just doesn't show the navigationscreen to select the courses

I can watch the testvideo in IE8 and in Firefox4, but in GFLV9.0.0.6 (or other internal browsers) the video doesnt play:
, ,

@getflv
no need to respond here. this is not the GetFLV support thread! but maybe with your next updated release (v9.0.0.7) this problem can be fixed :=) Meanwhile Paul wants to say something to everybody? :)

any ANONYMOUS forum user 04-25-2011 10:08 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
The screenshots state that the webpage (or website) itself is badly coded with lots of HTML errors and that their streams are protected. It means that you are not allowed to download their streams! :eek:
We cant blame the GetFLV product for (these days) not working with Kelbytraining.com website. The fault is with Kelby's website (and its chief programmer paul) ... they dont provide flawless webpages which display perfectly in all browser versions (IE7, IE8, IE9, FF3.x, FF4.x, etc.). Once Paul fixes the HTML-code of the Kelby webpages, GetFLV will automatically work with the Kelby webpages and download the Kelby streams. Kelby streams have ever since been officially supported by GetFLV:

,

If you have trouble navigating their website with GetFLV or InternetExplorer, although Flash is installed and JavaScript enabled, then install the latest FireFox (FF4) and do the following:

Instructions how to download Kelby Training videos (hi paul! ;) ):
0. let's take as example the "Adobe InDesign" courses:
>> _http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/
>> Courses : Categories :
>> InDesign
>> Courses :
>> InDesign for Photographers
>> Lessons :
>> Basis Concepts (=day1)

1. with FF4, surf to testpage url (video link!):
Code:

http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/#tab\browse/category\indesign/course\74/lesson\738
2. download the video with rtmpdump.exe:

3. the command line is:
Code:

rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://stream.kelbymediagroup.com/ondemand" -a "ondemand" -f "WIN 10,2,159,1" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -p "http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/" -y "indesign_photogs/day1" -o day1.flv
rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://stream.kelbymediagroup.com/ondemand" -a "ondemand" -f "WIN 10,2,159,1" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -p "http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/" -y "indesign_photogs/day2" -o day2.flv
rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://stream.kelbymediagroup.com/ondemand" -a "ondemand" -f "WIN 10,2,159,1" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -p "http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/" -y "indesign_photogs/day3" -o day3.flv
etc. etc. etc.

As you can see, the video streams dont have any unique ID, session ID or security token or whatsoever. The above command doesnt expire. Clearly, the streams are not protected the way they should be!

And even if paul programmed the video webpages to let/make the RTMPE-stream-url's expire after some time, the freeware tool rtmpdump would be able to download the streams with the above screenshot method. No problem.

rtmpdump does fail in some harder cases (Kelby is a VERY easy case), for example with Hulu.com; but then again the other tool, GetFLV, would come into play.

In summary, there is no viable way by which Kelby could possibly protect their streams from piracy downloading. It is so easy with rtmpdump, as you can see! But this doesnt mean that subscribed users are allowed to do it. In fact, it is prohibited, so dont do it!

This post is for educational purpose, and make sure to hide your IP address before you abuse it :cool:
The clever reader might have noticed that one doesnt need any subscription (Save the US$199 per year!!). Since the Kelby videos are not secured, you can download them just like that, as shown (day1, day2, day3, etcetcetc), for example "Lesson 10 : Sample Project (12min10sec)" is day11 such that:
Code:

rtmpdump -r "rtmpe://stream.kelbymediagroup.com/ondemand" -a "ondemand" -f "WIN 10,2,159,1" -W "http://media.kelbymediagroup.com/players/player-4.6-licensed.swf" -p "http://www.kelbytraining.com/player/" -y "indesign_photogs/day11" -o day11.flv


If paul is the responsible for the security of Kelby streams, i would fire him right away. Today. Now.

chap 04-25-2011 11:08 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
Quote:

If paul is the responsible for the security of Kelby streams, i would fire him right away. Today. Now.
And who's left?:eek:
With the monitor to record - no protection will help. Isn't it?

any ANONYMOUS forum user 04-25-2011 11:20 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
i think i know what you mean, lol!
with screen capturing software ANYTHING visual displayed on the screen can be "saved" to file (in form of *.avi, for example).

then of course, whatever Mr. security man implements as protection (or security), EVERYTHING can be (legally) "captured" with tools such as WM Capture.

hmm.. so paul should keep his job then? :eek:

chap 04-25-2011 11:28 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
Quote:

hmm.. so paul should keep his job then?
100%:)

Quote:

i think i know what you mean, lol!
with screen capturing software ANYTHING visual displayed on the sreen can be "saved" to file (in form of *.avi, for example).

then of course, whatever Mr. security man implements as protection (or security), EVERYTHING can be (legally) "captured".
Although it is not so interesting, how to download from the server.;)

Stream Recorder 04-25-2011 12:04 PM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
Unlike what many content providers think, many users just like to watch streams without buffering, hence they need to download. Or they just need to watch on portable devices. Piracy is about illegal video distribution, not about downloading.

IMHO by preventing legal users from watching content the way they like it (on the go, without buffering,...) content providers lose more customers than win.

any ANONYMOUS forum user 04-27-2011 09:28 AM

Re: GetFLV - Troubleshooting many problems with GFLV ...


 
i cannot watch the testvideo in standalone IE8, on system1.
i cannot watch the testvideo in standalone IE8, on system2.
i can watch the testvideo in standalone Firefox4 (or latest 3.x), on system1 and on system2.
i cannot watch the testvideo in GetFLV 9.0.0.7, no matter which browser is the default browser (on system1 or on system2):
, , ,

i think that the bad html coding (javascript errors, etc.) of the Kelby webpages works as "protection against GetFLV" ;). any testpage url (video link!) results in webpage error messages, in GetFLV and in Internet Explorer 8.

system1 and system2 are identically setup windowsxp-sp3 systems (parallel boot machine).

cjedj 05-16-2011 03:40 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
So... I can download from the links provided above using rtmpdump. This is great - I'm a paid subscriber, but want to be able to watch videos offline.

Question - how do you find the right URL to put in the command line, i.e. "indesign_photogs/day11"? Am I missing an obvious step here?

Go easy with me, I've no experience with URL sniffers or the like... :o

placebo 05-16-2011 07:16 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjedj (Post 29134)
Question - how do you find the right URL to put in the command line, i.e. "indesign_photogs/day11"?

in the style of SR:
no comment. just a link. rtfm. lol.

cjedj 05-16-2011 07:21 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo (Post 29136)

Lol :D

I should have mentioned I'm on OS X, which makes this a little harder. As far as I could tell most of the info on there was for Windows programs.

I noticed that rtmpsrv was being used in the screenshot posted above, but it seems to be listening on 1935. So now I guess I have to work out how to redirect rtmp traffic through 1935...

placebo 05-16-2011 07:46 AM

Re: Recording Kelby Training (www.Kelbytraining.com) videos by Kelby Media Group


 
you're on mac, sweet.
let me tell you, on Windows i have serious difficulties with watching the Kelby vids in Internet Explorer 8. Firefox is more error-tolerant .. and can play the vids. In any case, in the end, on a Windows machine, rtmpdump is the most convenient and direct downloading method for Kelby stuff.

Finding rtmpe url's on a mac system?
Maybe let's first find mac users lol on a SRF system! :p

How about running a virtual box (Windows emulator) on your mac? ;)


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