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How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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Anywho 07-13-2010 09:04 AM

How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
Hi. This is a thread discussing the use/issues of the iView (ABC Australia) downloaders.

There is currently a Wiki that was put up by Yansky here:

http://iviewdownloaders.wikia.com/wi...wnloaders_Wiki

The various URL links to obtain the downloaders are on that Wiki. If any are pointing to dead links, please let us know here ;)

If there any issues with the downloaders, please let us know here as well... The maintainers of the downloaders will likely be monitoring this thread and will offer help where/when ever they can...

gxdata 07-13-2010 06:58 PM

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Replay Video Capture will work great for this. ABC will probably continue to change protocols to foil the stream rippers, but since Replay Video Capture is a screen recorder it can't be blocked.

Yansky 07-14-2010 02:03 AM

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Anywho, I'm trying to add resume functionality to the firefox extension but I'm having some trouble. I decided to double-check with your batch script to just make sure that resuming is actually working cause your script has always worked for that, but it doesn't seem to be working atm.

Here's the output from the batch script:
http://pastebin.com/j8ZarR62

Downloading normally works fine though. It's just the resume that's borking for some reason.

mce 07-14-2010 02:46 AM

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Yeah, I've noticed that resume doesn't work anymore, well I haven't been able to get it to work for the last couple of releases.

Anywho 07-14-2010 03:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 20176)
Anywho, I'm trying to add resume functionality to the firefox extension but I'm having some trouble. I decided to double-check with your batch script to just make sure that resuming is actually working cause your script has always worked for that, but it doesn't seem to be working atm.

Here's the output from the batch script:
http://pastebin.com/j8ZarR62

Downloading normally works fine though. It's just the resume that's borking for some reason.

Yeah. Sometimes it happens for no reason. I can't pin it down to what is causing it, but so far I think it borks if the server disconnects you - like it leaves corruption in the file. When you go to resume it, then RTMPdump chucks a wobbly because of the corruption (then you'll need to delete the file and start again :mad: )

However, it seems that if you interrupt it (e.g: Ctrl-C) then RTMPdump exits cleanly and you can resume (I think that's how it went - um, er, last I remember).

Is that what you're getting? I've also tried this with RTMPdump 2.2c - same thing :(

Yansky 07-14-2010 03:21 AM

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I think the ABC have changed something because regular downloading is no longer working now.

Anywho 07-14-2010 03:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 20183)
I think the ABC have changed something because regular downloading is no longer working now.

Yep. Batch file is showing some error in even getting authentication (again)... Here we go again :rolleyes: - let the game begin :cool:

servalan 07-14-2010 03:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20182)
Is that what you're getting? I've also tried this with RTMPdump 2.2c - same thing :(

I posted about this problem at that other place... ;)

I changed back to using:
rtmpdump-win32-2.2b.exe

with 15.69 .bat & I haven't had problems resuming downloads. I was having hassles with the later rtmpdumps.

(forget that - it was working this morning - now stuffed again)

Anywho 07-14-2010 03:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by servalan (Post 20185)
I posted about this problem at that other place... ;)

I changed back to using:
rtmpdump-win32-2.2b.exe

with 15.69 .bat & I haven't had problems resuming downloads. I was having hassles with the later rtmpdumps.

Ah, thanks for that. When we get the downloaders working again we'll be able to test 2.2b... Looks like ABC have messed around with their client again :mad:

Anywho 07-14-2010 03:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 20183)
I think the ABC have changed something because regular downloading is no longer working now.

Just to confirm it... Look at the front page source code for the web site. It contains links to a whole bunch of shows. So yes, they have definitely changed things around again :eek:

Yansky 07-14-2010 04:03 AM

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Jeremy has an update: https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/08/3.../#comment-6356

randybull 07-14-2010 04:33 AM

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Great new forum, lots of interesting threds ..the journey continues :)

blood.eaglz 07-14-2010 04:38 AM

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Hey everyone, just to let you know i'm here (thanks for the whim Anywho)

Pity the war has resumed, anyway one change I've found is that ABC has changed the handshake url from
Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iView/Services/iViewHandshaker.asmx/isp
to
Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iViewHandshaker/services/iviewhandshaker.asmx/isp
also they seem to be transitioning to an api2
Code:

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?
example
Code:

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?seriesIndex

hope this helps a bit

Anywho 07-14-2010 04:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blood.eaglz (Post 20196)
Hey everyone, just to let you know i'm here (thanks for the whim Anywho)

Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iView/Services/iViewHandshaker.asmx/isp
to
Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iViewHandshaker/services/iviewhandshaker.asmx/isp
hope this helps a bit

Mate, your blood is worth bottling. ;)

I changed those references in the batch file to the new ones you mentioned and the batch file version is working again :D

Many thanks!

blood.eaglz 07-14-2010 05:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20197)
the batch file version is working again

No problem Anywho, it's been quite a while since I could be of any use.

forgot to mention (we'll actually login timed out, lost unposted quick reply) but I have also edited the wiki to reflect that part 2 of the whirlpool forum thread had also been deleted (and I'm guessing part one is being reviewed, since it started with rtmpdump probably be deleted soon as well)

will wait with bated breath for a working downloader (tried doing it myself with the info, but either not enough or I buggered up some where)

Anywho 07-14-2010 05:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blood.eaglz (Post 20201)
No problem Anywho, it's been quite a while since I could be of any use.

Hey! Good to see you're still keen.

Quote:

forgot to mention (we'll actually login timed out, lost unposted quick reply) but I have also edited the wiki to reflect that part 2 of the whirlpool forum thread had also been deleted (and I'm guessing part one is being reviewed, since it started with rtmpdump probably be deleted soon as well)
Yep. Just saw that - thank you. I think Part-1 might be safe. I don't seem to recall needing to use RTMPdump before Part-2. I think it was just FLVstreamer at that time.

Quote:

will wait with bated breath for a working downloader (tried doing it myself with the info, but either not enough or I buggered up some where)
I only had to change the two references in the batch file to the new one and it worked for me.

Anyway, the link to the edited batch file is in the Wiki already. Should only need to D/L the minimum version if you have the binary bits.

http://iviewdownloaders.wikia.com/wi...wnloaders_Wiki

Thanks again! :D

blood.eaglz 07-14-2010 05:52 AM

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damn iView is doing the server error stuff again, can't test until later...

randybull 07-14-2010 06:37 AM

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the wiki has been hacked by some idiot ..all deleted and this posted
"I BET IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU FUCKING INTERNET NERDS THAT I CAN'T FUCKING WATCH THE WIRE"

blood.eaglz 07-14-2010 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by randybull (Post 20207)
the wiki has been hacked by some idiot ..all deleted and this posted
"I BET IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU FUCKING INTERNET NERDS THAT I CAN'T FUCKING WATCH THE WIRE"

Wow, just... Wow. (I would think "Hijacked" would be more appropriate a term, hacking would require some skill :))

I've managed to get into the limited? iview bandwidth, the new bat file seems to be all good (the server crap now has me questioning whether or not i did have the changes right in the first place, ah well)

ronbs 07-14-2010 06:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by randybull (Post 20207)
the wiki has been hacked by some idiot ..all deleted and this posted
"I BET IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU FUCKING INTERNET NERDS THAT I CAN'T FUCKING WATCH THE WIRE"

No big deal. You just need to create an account and undo any changes made.

Cheers to everyone who is giving up their own time to work on this project.

mugio 07-14-2010 10:28 AM

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been good for months now!!! i didnt know they had removed the other forum

Yansky 07-14-2010 04:43 PM

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I've updated the firefox extension. It usually takes about a day or so for the Mozilla addon team to review the addon.

You can grab the un-reviewed version here though: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...0505/versions/

gxdata 07-14-2010 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 20191)

Python only? I guess you guys are working on a fix for the other utilities? Neither the batch downloader nor iViewNapper can stay active with the json changes, it seems.

servalan 07-14-2010 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 20214)
Python only? I guess you guys are working on a fix for the other utilities? Neither the batch downloader nor iViewNapper can stay active with the json changes, it seems.

The .bat downloader was fixed last night - see the wiki for the latest version - 15.70. All working ok here as of a few minutes ago.

randybull 07-15-2010 12:02 AM

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Confirm that bat file working ok ..but received bad ending from rtmpdump.
Anyone know what might cause an "ERROR: WriteN, RTMP send error 10054"


RTMPDump v2.2d (r474)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO: duration 1521.19
INFO: lasttimestamp 1521.19
INFO: datasize 125846501.00
INFO: metadatacreator FlixEngineWindows_8.0.16.1 (www.on2.com)
INFO: canSeekToEnd TRUE
INFO: videocodecid 4.00
INFO: width 640.00
INFO: height 480.00
INFO: videodatarate 552.58
INFO: framerate 25.00
INFO: videosize 107591925.00
INFO: audiocodecid 2.00
INFO: audiodatarate 93.75
INFO: audiosize 18254576.00
122240.000 kB / 1494.48 sec (98.2%)
ERROR: WriteN, RTMP send error 10054 (46 bytes)
ERROR: RTMP_ReadPacket, failed to read RTMP packet body. len: 67945
122242.084 kB / 1494.48 sec (98.2%)
Download may be incomplete (downloaded about 98.20%), try resuming

gxdata 07-15-2010 12:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by servalan (Post 20215)
The .bat downloader was fixed last night - see the wiki for the latest version - 15.70. All working ok here as of a few minutes ago.

OK, got it.

Anywho, can you indicate the changed lines in this v15.70 batch file (since I didn't unREM the line SET USE_CAPTIONS=Y)?

I'd like to change your batch SRT downloader, rather than waste bandwidth on another download of the Poh episode I just got.

Anywho 07-15-2010 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 20219)
Anywho, can you indicate the changed lines in this v15.70 batch file (since I didn't unREM the line SET USE_CAPTIONS=Y)?

I'd like to change your batch SRT downloader, rather than waste bandwidth on another download of the Poh episode I just got.

Sure... Just follow what blood.eaglz wrote on the previous page: ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood.eaglz (Post 20196)
Hey everyone, just to let you know i'm here (thanks for the whim Anywho)

Pity the war has resumed, anyway one change I've found is that ABC has changed the handshake url from
Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iView/Services/iViewHandshaker.asmx/isp
to
Code:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/iViewHandshaker/services/iviewhandshaker.asmx/isp


Anywho 07-15-2010 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by randybull (Post 20217)
Confirm that bat file working ok ..but received bad ending from rtmpdump.
Anyone know what might cause an "ERROR: WriteN, RTMP send error 10054"


RTMPDump v2.2d (r474)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL

122240.000 kB / 1494.48 sec (98.2%)
ERROR: WriteN, RTMP send error 10054 (46 bytes)
ERROR: RTMP_ReadPacket, failed to read RTMP packet body. len: 67945
122242.084 kB / 1494.48 sec (98.2%)
Download may be incomplete (downloaded about 98.20%), try resuming

  1. Did it take a while to download?
  2. Did you have something else using the 'net at the time?
  3. The 10054 suggests that the server disconnected you.
  4. Might have been ABC glitching again :rolleyes:

Out of interest, does it, or can you, resume the download if you try again? If it doesn't, can you post the message RTMPdump gives? (I'm trying to figure out why some D/L's don't resume where others do.)

(ABC's iView is glitching again at this time)

mce 07-15-2010 12:56 AM

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Guys,

I will update the iViewNappers later tonight when I get home from work.

randybull 07-15-2010 01:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20221)
  1. Did it take a while to download?
  2. Did you have something else using the 'net at the time?
  3. The 10054 suggests that the server disconnected you.
  4. Might have been ABC glitching again :rolleyes:

Well I was running two DL's simultanously, which i have in the past had up to 4 running together..I have a modified version of the bat script which worked fine prior to last week ...

I write the rtmpdump command to a NNN.bat file , sync then spawn a separate cmd window for each of the files ...

There seems to be a narrower time window now for the life of the token, if you delay the start then it seems token has expired, perhaps it has the same mechanism mid download to revalidate the token ...

Happened right at the end of DL at arround 98% to 99% , just gives an untidy end ...

Sorry for the sploge of code here but Im sure you will see what it does ...

if /i "%HOST%" == "Akamai" (
echo bin\rtmpdump.exe %RESUME% %RTMP_DEBUG% -r "rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net///flash/playback/_definst_/%SHOW_PATH%" -a ondemand?auth="%TOKEN%" -o "%SAVE_PATH%" %SWFPARAM% > "%NNN%%".bat
echo pause >> "%NNN%%".bat
D:\bin\IviewABC\ANapperiView\iView_Downloader\sync .exe -r D:
echo start %NNN%.bat %SHOW_PATH% %SAVE_PATH%
rem pause
call "cmd /c start D:\bin\IviewABC\ANapperiView\iView_Downloader\%NNN %.bat"
SET /a NNN+=1
)

Sync program courtesy of http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897438.aspx

Anywho 07-15-2010 02:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by randybull (Post 20225)
Well I was running two DL's simultanously, which i have in the past had up to 4 running together..I have a modified version of the bat script which worked fine prior to last week ...

However, iView has been flakey as of late - so keep that in mind when using multiple connections.

Quote:

There seems to be a narrower time window now for the life of the token, if you delay the start then it seems token has expired, perhaps it has the same mechanism mid download to revalidate the token ...
The Windows batch file version always gets an updated token just before downloading. In fact, that is the delay you see between selecting Option#3 and before RTMPdump kicks in. And yes - you have about 10 minutes before the authentication token becomes invalid.

Quote:

Happened right at the end of DL at around 98% to 99% , just gives an untidy end ...
See what happens if you use an earlier version of RTMPdump (2.2b or earlier).

-----

Please remember everyone, iView is so flakey at the moment (been like it for weeks actually) that I am more or less disregarding most issues.

I mean, I've had issues where the batch file hangs at trying to get the info for your server. I kill it, try again, and then it goes through - only to bork at getting the index. Or else the console dies because ABC spat back some garbage to the JSON parser.

The best bet is to wait (if possible) until they sort out their (stupidity) err, issues. Other than that, you'll have to suck it up for a while.

Anywho 07-15-2010 02:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 20219)
I'd like to change your batch SRT downloader, rather than waste bandwidth on another download of the Poh episode I just got.

I've put the updated version up on 4shared for you (same as the old URL).

servalan 07-15-2010 02:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20227)
See what happens if you use an earlier version of RTMPdump (2.2b or earlier).

I haven't had any hassles downloading stuff from 7am-3pm eastern time with 2.2b RTMPdump.

Avoid the peak times & all seems well.

Anywho 07-15-2010 02:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by servalan (Post 20229)
I haven't had any hassles downloading stuff from 7am-3pm eastern time with 2.2b RTMPdump.

Who's your ISP again?

And 2.2b seems to work fine for you? Resumes broken files OK?

Quote:

Avoid the peak times & all seems well.
Good advice. Seems to be a key factor for some connections. (I have a feeling that ABC are load balancing by taking out the slower and/or un-metered connections as needed)

servalan 07-15-2010 02:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20230)
Who's your ISP again?

Internode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20230)
And 2.2b seems to work fine for you? Resumes broken files OK?

Yup.

Anywho 07-15-2010 02:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by servalan (Post 20231)
Yup.

Thanks for that! :)

2.2b... Hmmm, the plot thickens. :confused:

gxdata 07-15-2010 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 20232)
2.2b... Hmmm, the plot thickens. :confused:

I had been using 2.2b until this latest iView change. I'm now using 2.2d - and will leave it in place until advised otherwise.

Amending the GetSRT.bat worked fine, and so far I've had no problem (only 3 DLs) with the 'main' batch downloader.

darian 07-15-2010 03:02 AM

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Last night the batch file v15.70 was sort of working, after lengthy delays, but it was metered instead of being unmetered via Hostworks.

This afternoon, all seems to be well, with downloads starting immediately and unmetered via Hostworks.

Great work in restoring the thread and facility, fellas!

I'm not sure which version of rtmpdump is being used with v15.70

Is it pure coincidence that ABC experienced issues/changed things simultaneously with Whirlpool deleting the iview thread, or has something more sinister been happening behind the scenes?

randybull 07-15-2010 04:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darian (Post 20235)
Great work in restoring the thread and facility, fellas!

Yes it is terrific to see a bunch of Aussies making something happen on the fringe ..freedom of speech ..freedom of access to educational materials & media ..the information revolution is just like the industrial revolution of a few hundred years ago

As for the arguement that it disadvantages creativity, which is what Whirlpool through up as an excuse for their decision, I would suggest that the freedom of access to media & materials stimulates creativity

Quote:

Originally Posted by darian (Post 20235)
Is it pure coincidence that ABC experienced issues/changed things simultaneously with Whirlpool deleting the iview thread, or has something more sinister been happening behind the scenes?

Sort of coincidence that might occur by virtue of induced delays caused by AFP rerouting IP traffic through a national filter perhaps ..After all ABC is effectively a federal government controlled entity

Yes it is terrific to see a bunch of Aussies making something happen on the fringe ..freedom of speech ..freedom of access to educational materials ..but I'm spooked easily because i live in the bit that has the 3rd largest police force in the world & they are always trying to justify their existence to their political masters ..

Its important that we at all times remain within the legal constraints of what is possible, Im sure non of us are or have any intention to violate any laws of copywrite etc ...(sorry for the rant)

..I would also like to bring to your attention to the opensource truecrypt product http://www.truecrypt.org/ just ensure that anything you DL is strictly for your personnel use & not for any other reason :-)

..as it is my opinion that what we do is in no way different to anyone who has a VCR or PVR other recording box

mce 07-15-2010 05:17 AM

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New versions of iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite can be found on the webpages.


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