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what bitrate is myspace in now?

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airtas 01-21-2010 08:12 PM

what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
is there a way to tell the way myspace songs are posted in terms of bit rate?

any ANONYMOUS forum user 01-21-2010 10:45 PM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Download MySpace songs with freeware rtmpdump or download MySpace songs with Replay Media Catcher and see for yourself :D

airtas 01-22-2010 03:41 PM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
someone told me myspace makes everything 128 now, is this correct?

any ANONYMOUS forum user 01-23-2010 05:38 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Post the URL of the web-page with the streams which you want to know. I will try to download and let you know.

p.s. rtmpdump is absolutely free, so it will be pretty easy to check it out!

airtas 05-23-2010 09:45 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
every song I checked is 128...........does the player transcode?

Ross Patzelt 10-14-2010 11:38 PM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
So is Myspace still crappy quality compressed mp3s or are they the original mp3s that the artists posted up?

placebo 11-02-2010 03:30 PM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
hi, although myspace audio streams are tricky to capture because of secure RMTP (RTMPE), it is possible. you get *.FLV-files with rtmpdump, StreamTransport, GetFLV, CooJah + Blader.

they all download the same FLV file: 2.93MB for a test song of 4min13sec length.

+ Replay Media Catcher 3 is NOT able to detect mp3 frame rates and extract the audio as MP3. strange!

+ getflv "decompresses" a 3.86MB-sized MP3 file, 128kbps, LAME 3.98, 44.1kHz, and the Encoded Tag field says "Lavf52.22.0" (whatever that means!?)

+ flvextract extracts a 2.89MB-sized MP3 file, 96kbps, LAME 3.97, sampler rate 22050Hz, and the file is fully untagged.

Funnily i dont have any LAME 3.97 codec installed on my system. And why would the MP3 file be much bigger than the FLV file. All this evidences that GetFLV does not extract the mp3 audio data but CONVERTS :mad: THE FLV TO MP3:
Quote:

Originally Posted by GetFLV, program GUI
Extract Audio from FLV ->
FLV Audio Ripper will help you extract audio tracks from FLV video file and save them as MP3, WAV and WMA formats.

anyway. my tests demonstrate that myspace songs are in 96 and not in 128.

Stream Recorder 11-03-2010 02:09 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo (Post 22701)
+ Replay Media Catcher 3 is NOT able to detect mp3 frame rates and extract the audio as MP3. strange!

Replay Media Catcher 4 uses ffmpeg for extracting MP3 and AAC audio tracks from video files (not limited to FLV and MP4 videos).

placebo 11-03-2010 02:42 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
you're a user and fan of RMC 4, arent you? i am too. let's not confuse the boardies. RMC4 does not extract the audio but it uses ffmpeg to convert the audio (within the FLV-file) from its original format within the FLV (can be mp3, aac, ...) to your specified format (can, again, be mp3, mp4, m4a, ...).

audio extraction is a lossless process. (FLVExtract)
audio conversion is a lossy process. (RMC4 )

RMC3 does have the functionality to extract mp3 from flv, given that the flv contains original mp3 audio data. but with flv's from myspace, RMC3 has problems to identify and extract the mp3 data.

anyway we can cut the discussion (or the thread). audio from myspace is low bitrate (96kbps. not 128!) and i am not interested in wasting my time with playing with such kiddo audio thanks!

all audio i download and archive (collect) is in 192-320. exceptional rare albums exist in LQ (64, 128). but myspace couldnt be called an exception: it is a whole huge website!! :eek:

Stream Recorder 11-03-2010 03:43 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo (Post 22723)
you're a user and fan of RMC 4, arent you? i am too. let's not confuse the boardies. RMC4 does not extract the audio but it uses ffmpeg to convert the audio (within the FLV-file) from its original format within the FLV (can be mp3, aac, ...) to your specified format (can, again, be mp3, mp4, m4a, ...).

There is no confusion. I suggested to add presets for lossless audio extraction:
http://forum.applian.com/showthread....-extract-audio
so I know for sure that this is not conversion.

AAC and MP3 extraction presets are available by default in RMC since version 4.0.14.

placebo 11-03-2010 05:38 AM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stream Recorder (Post 22726)
There is no confusion. I suggested to add presets for lossless audio extraction:
http://forum.applian.com/showthread....-extract-audio
so I know for sure that this is not conversion.

Quote:

October 25, 2010
Replay Media Catcher -4.0.14
- New MusicDNS implementation (stops hanging and supports unicode tags)
- New Yahoo playlist support
- Reverted f4v file extension change from 4.0.12
- Ensure ASF streaming always passes file size detection
- 3 new Audio Extraction conversion presets
- Fixed crash in firefox browser cache
- Ports to filter on now takes 5 digit port numbers
- MusicDNS lookups will now not happen for avi's and asf files.
thanks.

i need to apologize then :rolleyes: (Oops, sori! :p )
okay.. but when you do this, your mp3 file gets tagged:
comment field: Downloaded with Replay Media Catcher 4 - www.applian.com
encoded by field: Lavf52.32.0

uncool :cool:

while i can confirm that, when you remove those 2 tag fields, the files are identically (crc32) the same (RMC4 vs. FLVExtract), FLVExtract launches faster, processes much faster. And is free!

airtas 12-06-2010 08:48 PM

Re: what bitrate is myspace in now?


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo (Post 22723)
you're a user and fan of RMC 4, arent you? i am too. let's not confuse the boardies. RMC4 does not extract the audio but it uses ffmpeg to convert the audio (within the FLV-file) from its original format within the FLV (can be mp3, aac, ...) to your specified format (can, again, be mp3, mp4, m4a, ...).

audio extraction is a lossless process. (FLVExtract)
audio conversion is a lossy process. (RMC4 )

RMC3 does have the functionality to extract mp3 from flv, given that the flv contains original mp3 audio data. but with flv's from myspace, RMC3 has problems to identify and extract the mp3 data.

anyway we can cut the discussion (or the thread). audio from myspace is low bitrate (96kbps. not 128!) and i am not interested in wasting my time with playing with such kiddo audio thanks!

all audio i download and archive (collect) is in 192-320. exceptional rare albums exist in LQ (64, 128). but myspace couldnt be called an exception: it is a whole huge website!! :eek:

well you used to be able to get the original songs in HQ


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