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Need stream capture software for Mac OS X

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DHK 12-13-2007 01:12 PM

Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
I'm in the same position. I used Replay A/V on Windows but have now switched to a Mac. Is there ANY software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file, rather than having to listen to the file as it streams by in real time and is recorded realtime?

Stream Recorder 12-13-2007 09:04 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Stream capture software for all platforms including Mac OS X

DHK 12-14-2007 09:17 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
I appreciate the reply, but I've looked at that chart before, and it doesn't say (or I can't interpret) whether the recording is in real time, or as a download which would only be a minute or two. There's quite a difference in that, obviously. I only know of Replay which does that in the Windows world. I'm trying to find the equivalent in Mac.

Thanks...

DK

Stream Recorder 12-14-2007 04:56 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Obviously VLC player and MPlayer just dump streams while playing them, so they provide real time recording only.

Other choice is very very limited. ASFRecorder like software can record Windows Media streams through the rather obsolete MMS protocol. They should work faster than in real time... but it doesn't really help a lot.

Capturing/ripping/downloading media streams on Mac OS is a real headache. One is lucky if he/she can capture/rip/download in real time. IMHO Mac users are doomed to use Windows with bootcamp or Parallels Desktop for Max OS X.

This is not that bad. Parallels Desktop allows you to run Windows applications from Mac OS X smoothly. Replay AV is one of the programs that was tested on Parallels.

DHK 12-14-2007 08:17 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Thanks very much for elaborating... you confirmed my fears. I've used Replay AV with Parallels, but have had some problems with Parallels in general, so have switched to the more native boot camp. I don't get the seamlessness, but have purer and faster XP.

Take care,

DHK

Stream Recorder 12-14-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DHK (Post 4714)
I've used Replay A/V with Parallels, but have had some problems with Parallels in general, so have switched to the more native boot camp. I don't get the seamlessness, but have purer and faster XP.

I saw many very positive responses about Parallels Desktop, but there seems to be a problem with Leopard, the latest version of Mac OS X. Hopefully this is temporary.

Besides Parallels Desktop is a virtual machine. Even though you can launch Windows applications from your Mac OS X, as you said, they will work slower than with pure Windows XP. How much slower? It really depends on your hardware.

Pennywhistler 01-13-2008 07:00 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
As to
Quote:

Recording media streams on Mac OS is a real headache. One is lucky if he/she can record in real time. IMHO Mac users are doomed to use Windows with bootcamp or Parallels Desktop for Max OS X.
, that is just bosh. What you are looking for is WireTap and WireTap Pro. The free version records in real time and the one you pay for has a timer-record feature.

As to "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file, rather than having to listen to the file as it streams by in real time and is recorded realtime?" I've not heard of any. Let us know if you find one!

Stream Recorder 01-13-2008 11:43 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4952)
that is just bosh. What you are looking for is WireTap and WireTap Pro. The free version records in real time and the one you pay for has a timer-record feature.

WireTap is a direct sound recording sofware and the question was about capturing/ripping/downloading streams.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4952)
As to "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file, rather than having to listen to the file as it streams by in real time and is recorded realtime?" I've not heard of any. Let us know if you find one!

There are several audio stream rippers for Mac OS X and several audio/video stream rippers, but they have very limited functionality.

Pennywhistler 01-13-2008 04:48 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
SR:

YOU said "Recording media streams on Mac OS is a real headache. One is lucky if he/she can record in real time."

And THAT is just bosh. WireTap records in real time with one click, and WireTap Pro that you pay for has a timer-record feature.


I made it quite clear that I was NOT referring to "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file", so you don't have to tell me what the original question was.

My point is that the timer-record function is the next best thing. And you don't have to deal with those crappy limited-function rippers. That ShoutCast thing ONLY records mp3 files, so good luck recording BBC radio plays or NPR programs or anything else. WireTap records everything.

Stream Recorder 01-13-2008 05:25 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4955)
YOU said "Recording media streams on Mac OS is a real headache. One is lucky if he/she can record in real time."

And THAT is just bosh. WireTap records in real time with one click, and WireTap Pro that you pay for has a timer-record feature.

I made it quite clear that I was NOT referring to "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file", so you don't have to tell me what the original question was.

Stream recording has a very ambiguos meaning. It is used in whatever way the software vendor likes it to be used.
In my statement by stream recording on Mac OS I obviously meant stream capturing/ripping/downloading on Mac OS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4955)
My point is that the timer-record function is the next best thing. And you don't have to deal with those crappy limited-function rippers. That ShoutCast thing ONLY records mp3 files, so good luck recording BBC radio plays or NPR programs or anything else. WireTap records everything.

Direct sound recording has many disadvantages which many experienced users know well. Here are some of them:
  • You get bigger files or lower quality.
  • You can end up with system sounds or any other sounds in your recordings
  • You can't do many things on your computer that involve sound card usage, when something is recorded.
  • You can't record multiple streams at the same time (unless you have multiple sound cards)
  • You can't split and tag recorded songs (unless you use Replay Music for Windows that can record anything from your sound card automaticaly splitting and tagging songs)

So obviously it is better to capture/rip/download streams in most cases. And you can use many applications for that, but most of them work on Windows only.

The main advantage of direct sound recording is that you can record any sound produced by your sound card.

p.s. Both types of programs can have or have no scheduling feature.

Pennywhistler 01-14-2008 03:34 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
God alone knows why you are going on and on with this.

1) The OP wants "stream capture software for Mac OS X". You posted him some stuff that is terrible and only works with MP3s. As he didn't say what he was recording that may or may not be good enough for him. I don't know.

I suggested an alternative that works splendidly and records everything. I also mentioned that the paid-for version allows you to record on a timer, so you can set it up to record when you are not at home, overnight, eating dinner, or any other time you were not going to make system noises on your computer (though why you don't just shut off the system noises is unclear to me).

He is not required to take my suggestion.

2)
Quote:

As to "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file, rather than having to listen to the file as it streams by in real time and is recorded realtime?" I've not heard of any. Let us know if you find one!
That too is perfectly clear. I hadn't heard of any.

Stream Recorder 01-14-2008 11:51 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4963)
The OP wants "stream capture software for Mac OS X". You posted him some stuff that is terrible and only works with MP3s. As he didn't say what he was recording that may or may not be good enough for him. I don't know.

I hadn't heard of any "software for OS X that will download an archived stream as a file, rather than having to listen to the file as it streams by in real time and is recorded realtime"

i don't really know what terrible MP3 software you were talking about.

Here are the links I posted:
I also clearly stated that IMHO stream rippers for mac os are crappy and that one can use Windows on Mac with Bootcamp or Parallels Desktop for Max OS X.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4963)
I suggested an alternative that works splendidly and records everything. I also mentioned that the paid-for version allows you to record on a timer, so you can set it up to record when you are not at home, overnight, eating dinner, or any other time you were not going to make system noises on your computer (though why you don't just shut off the system noises is unclear to me).

I can
  • shut off the system sounds
  • do not listen to the radio on my computer
  • do not use my TV Tuner
  • do not use VoIP calls
  • do not work with audio at all
but I don't want to. I wanna watch TV, listen to the radio, I wanna hear when my trading terminal disconnects from the Internet, I wanna hear when I receive a Skype call or instant message,...

And I wanna sleep well at night without hearing the noise of my PC.

The disadvantages of direct sound recording software that "works splendidly" were mentioned in my previous post.

Pennywhistler 01-15-2008 03:37 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
VLC is only a player, and Replay is for Windows ... and costs $50 to boot.
Not too useful for the OP, IMHO.

As you never bothered to ascertain what OS the OP was using, the other stuff probably won't work at all (depending). I can't even get most of them to open up in 10.2.


Windows on Mac with Bootcamp and Parallels Desktop for Max OS X cost a lot of money, so they hardly seem to be free solutions, do they.

Quote:

I can

* shut off the system sounds
* do not listen to the radio on my computer
* do not use my TV Tuner
* do not use VoIP calls
* do not work with audio at all

but I don't want to. I wanna watch TV, listen to the radio, I wanna hear when my trading terminal disconnects from the Internet, I wanna hear when I receive a Skype call or instant message,...

And I wanna sleep well at night without hearing the noise of my PC.
Well bully for you. That has little or nothing to do with the issues and problems raised by the OP, but why should you care?


You seem determined to have the last word, so have at it.

Stream Recorder 01-15-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4970)
VLC is only a player, and Replay is for Windows ... and costs $50 to boot.
Not too useful for the OP, IMHO.

As you never bothered to ascertain what OS the OP was using, the other stuff probably won't work at all (depending). I can't even get most of them to open up in 10.2.

VLC is just a player - well may be for you it is so...It is funny how you describe it and other software you have no idea about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4970)
Windows on Mac with Bootcamp and Parallels Desktop for Max OS X cost a lot of money, so they hardly seem to be free solutions, do they.

Nobody said it was free. Even wiretap with scheduling is not free.

And free solution is not necessarily the best one. Seemingly free offer can force you to spend time and efforts which money equivalent is times higher. It doesn't mean that you should buy Parallels Desktop immediately. On the contrary one should think twice before buying any software. Not every software vendor offers money-back guarantee...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywhistler (Post 4970)
Well bully for you. That has little or nothing to do with the issues and problems raised by the OP, but why should you care?

You seem determined to have the last word, so have at it.

Yes, you offered a direct sound recorder instead of stream capture software and everything else is because I don't care! :D

The thread is not intended to solve the raised problem of a single user, instead it should help many Mac fans. And obviously their demands are different.

This is definitely not a problem of the last word. May be some people can leave their computers when recording, and turn the system sounds off, and record only one stream at a time, and don't care that the quality will be worse or filesize will be larger,... there are so many ANDs that they should know about alternatives.

keyboard samurai 01-17-2008 03:56 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Some of these disadvantages you are pointing out are not true of Audio Hijack Pro. I much prefer it to Wiretap and others for direct audio recording.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stream Recorder (Post 4956)
Stream recording has a very ambiguos meaning. It is used in whatever way the software vendor likes it to be used.
In my statement by stream recording on Mac OS I obviously meant stream capturing/ripping/downloading on Mac OS.

Direct sound recording has many disadvantages which many experienced users know well. Here are some of them:
  • You get bigger files or lower quality.
  • You can end up with system sounds or any other sounds in your recordings
  • You can't do many things on your computer that involve sound card usage, when something is recorded.
  • You can't record multiple streams at the same time (unless you have multiple sound cards)
  • You can't split and tag recorded songs (unless you use Replay Music for Windows that can record anything from your sound card automaticaly splitting and tagging songs)


keyboard samurai 01-17-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
For Audio/Video stream rippers native to Mac OS X,
I have seen no mention of my two favorites that are also both free.
The links posted in this thread so far seem to be tables with really out of date stuff.

I would suggest the original poster check out these programs.

CocoaJT 5.2.2 and MPEG Streamclip 1.9

with CocaoJT it is real easy to download a windows media or real media video/audio stream in background using it's recorder option while doing other stuff. I just downloaded a 30 MB windows media stream today and it definitely took less time to download it than to watch it. The interface is a little funky but it works beautifully.

I should note that I am still using Tiger (10.4.11) and have not yet switched to Leopard (probably won't for a while till at least till several more updates and bug fixes occur, everything works on Tiger, no reason to break anything).

Stream Recorder 01-17-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keyboard samurai (Post 4985)
For Audio/Video stream rippers native to Mac OS X,
I have seen no mention of my two favorites that are also both free.
The links posted in this thread so far seem to be tables with really out of date stuff.

I would suggest the original poster check out these programs.

CocoaJT 5.2.2 and MPEG Streamclip 1.9

CocoaJT uses MPlayer to dump streams and MPlayer is mentioned in the All streaming media recording software chart.

MPEG Streamclip can download HTTP streams only from youtube and google video. Any download manager can do that if you have the video URL. And there are dozens of youtube recorders so they are not mentioned in the chart.

ferido 03-26-2008 02:10 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Get here, http://all-streaming-media.com/recor...g-software.htm

basskadet 03-31-2009 04:55 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
I was reading the above posts with some interest as I too wanted to record some video footage off of an online Flash Player (not Youtube).

I know nothing really about streaming & such but I was surprised that nobody has mentioned Rogue Amoeba's brilliant bits of software for audio on Macs.

Check it out here: "http://www.rogueamoeba.com"

They do decent demos for free but to get the full use out of it I really suggest you pay for the full editions as they generally aren't to expensive & the uses are endless.

For recording audio use 'Audio Hijack Pro'. This brilliant software intercepts audio between the running software & your computers audio output. It WON'T record system sounds etc as it only records the audio that has been 'hijacked' by the software. You can save in virtually any format you desire & can even add your own effects if you like.

Its not exactly a 'stream recorder' but it basically will do the same job no problem.

They also do another excellent piece of software called "Radioshift". This is specifically for radio (Internet & AM/FM) & allows you to schedule radio broadcasts & record them even if you are not there & even if your computer is asleep! It handles multiple recordings no problem & works in the background unnoticed.

Stream Recorder 03-15-2010 11:37 AM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
You can run Replay Media Catcher on Mac OS using freeware WINE or WineBottler:
How to install and run Replay Media Catcher on Mac OS X (Snow Leopard)

Stream Recorder 01-24-2011 01:47 PM

Re: Need stream capture software for Mac OS X


 
Jaksta for Mac allows to download flash video, windows media, mp3 streams on Mac OS X.


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