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How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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fezza65 11-12-2010 01:30 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by streamed (Post 22802)
Hi,

I would like to know if one of you can build some sort of QA tool to check/verify the downloads.
Or am I the only one with incomplete downloads?

The batch file version creates a download log version. You can queue up multiple downloads and then execute. At the end, you can skim the download.log file for "Saved successfully" for each file. If you are having problems you may be able pinpoint what it is, eg file not found, error in connection-retrying, etc. from the info in the log file.

You can even queue up the downloads and schedule the downloads for later (offpeak times) using iViewLater, in case your ISP is having dropouts during peak times.

I had one file that I had queued last night, fail, " Error in connection. Retrying...".
That is unusual... I checked the file. and yep, it was incomplete. So threw it away. Will download it again later.

gxdata 11-12-2010 09:35 PM

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One for Anywho:
A "missed" episode of "round the Twist" (e10) is actually downloadable, via editing the download_list.xml file created by Batch Downloader, but I can't see any episode details (description, etc) for that episode in the JSON that iVBD creates in \cache\. It's there for ep9, ep12, etc.

Does this mean that iView staff never entered that info - or, can it be located somewhere on the server?

Anywho 11-13-2010 03:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 22958)
One for Anywho:
A "missed" episode of "round the Twist" (e10) is actually downloadable, via editing the download_list.xml file created by Batch Downloader, but I can't see any episode details (description, etc) for that episode in the JSON that iVBD creates in \cache\. It's there for ep9, ep12, etc.

Does this mean that iView staff never entered that info -

If it isn't in the JSON index then none of the downloaders will see it. So yes, that's just the ABC iView staff being slack as usual. In those cases you have to go onto their forum and complain. If you're lucky it will get fixed up but I think you need to do it quickly or else it gets shelved with a "technical problem".

Quote:

can it be located somewhere on the server?
Not easily - except by the trial'n'error method you're doing now. Unfortunately, with the way the server(s) are set up you can't just do a ftp "ls" (list files) command. :(

gxdata 11-13-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 22965)
Not easily - except by the trial'n'error method you're doing now.

What's worse (in terms of anything but an ad hoc arrangement, for any of the videos that they present), is that things like video/audio out of sync and worse, are detected by the quality control minions who watch iView and report the problems on the Message Board (ie, general public).
I gather - from reading responses from the iView Mod - that the files they get come from various sources, and the QC is non-existent up to that point.
Add to that, the metadata creation is hit and miss ... as we all know (which is how I have picked up the odd long-past episode remaining somewhere on the servers).

gxdata 11-15-2010 05:22 AM

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Has anyone compiled rtmpdump.exe from sourcecode with Visual Studio?

kharisma 11-15-2010 06:38 AM

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Is the current version of iViewFox (1.1.8) working for anyone on a Mac, Snow Leopard?

I'm watching ABC in Melbourne. My ISP is TPG.

I've just installed iViewFox and it just plays the video. No offer to save.

Have downloaded the rtmpdump, but there's no .exe in the files. I'm not at all familiar with the code flying around here that many others seem to be fine with.

Was rather hoping the firefox extension would work.

From something I read while searching for an answer, it seems ABS have just changed their settings again. Will iViewFox be updated to cater for that?

Anywho 11-15-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kharisma (Post 23001)
I've just installed iViewFox and it just plays the video. No offer to save.

If iViewFox has installed properly, there should be an "ABC icon" in the status bar (lower right) of Firefox - like the one that iView uses when it is loading into your browser . If you click on that then a "preferences" dialog should pop up. Make sure that iViewFox is set to "enabled" (see attached screengrab).

Disclaimer: Not using Mac here ;)

kharisma 11-15-2010 01:36 PM

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Forgot to mention...

Yes the icon is there; it says it's enabled.

Have tried closing down Firefox and restarting - no joy.

There was a message when I first installed it, to copy some command and put it in Terminal - which I did.

??? Am at a loss to know what else I can do.

Yansky 11-15-2010 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kharisma (Post 23016)
Forgot to mention...

Yes the icon is there; it says it's enabled.

Have tried closing down Firefox and restarting - no joy.

There was a message when I first installed it, to copy some command and put it in Terminal - which I did.

??? Am at a loss to know what else I can do.

Perhaps try the terminal command again. Put the following address in Firefox to bring up that page again: chrome://iviewfox/content/ohHai.html

It's possible that my code for checking whether or not the extension is being updated or newly installed could be borked.

kharisma 11-16-2010 12:46 AM

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I put the code into terminal again,
restarted Firefox,
went to abc.net.au -
the little icon appears.
Clicked on "Watch Program" -
it went to full-screen and started playing the video.

Yansky 11-16-2010 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kharisma (Post 23023)
I put the code into terminal again,
restarted Firefox,
went to abc.net.au -
the little icon appears.
Clicked on "Watch Program" -
it went to full-screen and started playing the video.

Just to confirm, you're not on OSX 10.5, but OSX 10.6+ yeah?

kharisma 11-16-2010 10:06 AM

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OSX 10.6.4 Snow Leopard

ISP is TPG

Yansky 11-16-2010 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kharisma (Post 23033)
OSX 10.6.4 Snow Leopard

ISP is TPG

Unfortunately my version of rtmpdump (which is the downloader within iViewFox) is only compiled to run under OSX 10.6.

kharisma 11-17-2010 06:35 PM

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@Yansky

Any chance you'll be upgrading it soon?

gxdata 11-17-2010 07:06 PM

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(rtmpdump usage question)

I have this stream URL (from StreamTransport, which can download it OK, but in its full playing time of course) -

rtmp://pub-fz.cdn.iinet.net.au/public//mp4:waso/waso/waso-rib-ep001-hq.mp4

I am using rtmpdump with -r URL -o filename.mp4 but get this error -
Code:

RTMPDump v2.2d (r463)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
ERROR: RTMP_Connect0, failed to connect socket. 10061 (Unknown error)

OR

Code:

RTMPDump v2.2d (r463)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
ERROR: rtmp server sent error
ERROR: rtmp server requested close

Can someone tell me what is this indicating?

[Edit]
eliminated the problem due to having a 0-byte output file, due to earlier failed attempts. Now, my simple test batch file deletes the output file.

ollie grieve 11-19-2010 11:00 PM

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I have been using IviewFox successfully for some time. I upgraded successfully to the new 3 November version, but it stopped working on 12 November. Like kharisma, I stopped getting the save box and the program continued to download and play. Thing is I am also with TPG. I have also tried to run IviewFox on my old lap top where I have successfully run the application before, but with the same (non) outcome.

Could it be that TPG has blocked the application form working?

Anywho 11-20-2010 02:13 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ollie grieve (Post 23099)
Like kharisma, I stopped getting the save box and the program continued to download and play.

RTMPdump actually starts after the save dialog has opened - not before. It's not RTMPdump that makes the save dialog appear. If you're not getting the save dialog then something else is blocking it before RTMPdump gets a chance to begin :(

Quote:

Could it be that TPG has blocked the application form working?
No. RTMPdump does not identify itself in any way that TPG could know that you were using it. If you can play the video directly from the ABC iView site then RTMPdump should work.

What OS are you using? Also, what version of Firefox?

Yansky 11-20-2010 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ollie grieve (Post 23099)
I have been using IviewFox successfully for some time. I upgraded successfully to the new 3 November version, but it stopped working on 12 November. Like kharisma, I stopped getting the save box and the program continued to download and play. Thing is I am also with TPG. I have also tried to run IviewFox on my old lap top where I have successfully run the application before, but with the same (non) outcome.

Could it be that TPG has blocked the application form working?

A few people have reported this but I can't seem to replicate the issue. I don't think it's ISP specific as I'm with TPG too and it seems to work ok for me.

I asked another user who experienced this problem to post any error messages he received, but he said there were none: http://mycoffeelounge.net/forum-repl...26217&r=11#r11

Anywho, here is my code for the iViewFox extension FWIW: http://pastebin.com/JDx6dg5T - can you see any issues?

Also, I just noticed that a user posted some info in a review here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...90505/reviews/
Something about private browsing mode. Perhaps there's a setting that's getting messed up or summin.

P.S. - slightly off topic, but if anyone could test out my new version of this extension that'd be great.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/56803/
The new version is 0.2.4 - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...6803/versions/

Anywho 11-20-2010 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 23108)
Anywho, here is my code for the iViewFox extension FWIW: http://pastebin.com/JDx6dg5T - can you see any issues?

Nope. Seeing as they're not getting to the SAVE dialog, this seems to suggest that the checks on prefs.getBoolPref("enabled") aren't working - or they are but Firefox isn't passing the correct value back to you (damaged user profile?)
Quote:

Also, I just noticed that a user posted some info in a review here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...90505/reviews/
Something about private browsing mode. Perhaps there's a setting that's getting messed up or summin.
In private browsing mode you do get a "new" user profile, don't you? This would suggest an issue with the user's profile. A test, I guess, would be to see if a new vanilla user's profile has the same issue as well. Other possibilities - other add-ons interfering?

Anywho 11-20-2010 09:00 PM

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Yanksy...

Thinking some more about the iViewFox.prefs.getBoolPref("enabled") - if that wasn't working then they would get a "light" ABC icon not the "dark" ABC icon in the status bar wouldn't they? Perhaps a screencap of the status bar would help you to see if that is being picked up properly.

ollie grieve 11-21-2010 03:54 AM

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I am using windows XP and firefox version 3.6.10 with all updates

gxdata 11-26-2010 08:53 AM

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I have this idea of making use of the last-chance.xml file in order to add menu choices to a GUI downloader, for those expiring today, in 2 days, a week, etc - akin to the Last Chance choice at iView. That page has only today, tomorrow - but the RSS feeds give longer-term information.
But I'm not sure that the RSS is the way to go, since their information is derived from the episode metadata anyway.
Any advice?

Anywho 11-26-2010 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 23223)
But I'm not sure that the RSS is the way to go, since their information is derived from the episode metadata anyway.
Any advice?

Answered your own question I think.

I see getting another file from the server as just another file to: load, go missing, be corrupted, have to parse for info, when you already have the info you need (expiry date).

gxdata 11-27-2010 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23228)
Answered your own question I think.

I see getting another file from the server as just another file to: load, go missing, be corrupted, have to parse for info, when you already have the info you need (expiry date).

ys, i think parsing the index/catalog json is the way.

marinam 11-27-2010 06:56 PM

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Hi,

Has anyone else been having trouble using V15.80 of the batch version?

I have had trouble ie. getting a 'not found' error whenever I try to download anything eg. Cosmic Quantum Ray. Iviewfox and Napperlite are working as normal however.

Anywho 11-27-2010 08:48 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marinam (Post 23253)
Hi,

Has anyone else been having trouble using V15.80 of the batch version?

I have had trouble ie. getting a 'not found' error whenever I try to download anything eg. Cosmic Quantum Ray. Iviewfox and Napperlite are working as normal however.

Actually, you'll find that the iView site is broken. The index on their site doesn't load fully - hence why the batch file is choking.

Anywho 11-27-2010 08:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23254)
Actually, you'll find that the iView site is broken. The index on their site doesn't load fully - hence why the batch file is choking.

And as soon as I wrote that - 5 minutes later it's fixed! Someone's watching us :eek:

Anywho 11-28-2010 12:27 AM

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Looks like the iView site is messed up again. Broken sometimes at the "Loading iView" (gets to 68%). If you get to the home page then sometimes the "All Programs -> A-Z Index" doesn't work...

The trained monkeys must have stopped hitting keys on the keyboard again :D

marinam 11-28-2010 05:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23254)
Actually, you'll find that the iView site is broken. The index on their site doesn't load fully - hence why the batch file is choking.

Oh well, sorry for the false alarm. It just seemed weird that Iviewfox and Napperlite were working. :o Everything seems OK now.

Thanks

gxdata 11-29-2010 12:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marinam (Post 23262)
Oh well, sorry for the false alarm. It just seemed weird that Iviewfox and Napperlite were working. :o Everything seems OK now.

Thanks

Very odd show-stopping behaviour has been exhibited today.

Unusually, I have been able to test this over some time - instead of doing some work - and have found both iViewNapper and iView Batch Downloader have been hit with parsing errors in the JSON files.

Strangely, it clears up sometimes a few minutes later.

I'm going to test whether I have a disk problem (It could be a disk read when the catalog.json / index.json is read - but I'm not convinced of that).

Anywho 11-29-2010 12:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 23274)
Strangely, it clears up sometimes a few minutes later.

Yeah, that's what I found was happening yesterday.
Quote:

I'm going to test whether I have a disk problem (It could be a disk read when the catalog.json / index.json is read - but I'm not convinced of that).
Nah, I wouldn't blame your disk. iView has been having issues as you've found out. The main index(es) are sometimes loading completely and sometimes they're are not. This is what is causing the JSON parser errors.

I know the batch file version will either give you a menu with all the index or else you get a menu with just "0. Go back to Main Menu" when the index doesn't completely load.

I've found that if the index loads when you use ABC's iView website, then you'll often find that the index loads for the batch file version properly (and I'm guessing similar for iViewNapper). Luck of the draw I'm thinking :rolleyes:

gxdata 11-29-2010 12:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23275)
Yeah, that's what I found was happening yesterday.

Nah, I wouldn't blame your disk. iView has been having issues as you've found out. The main index(es) are sometimes loading completely and sometimes they're are not. This is what is causing the JSON parser errors.

I know the batch file version will either give you a menu with all the index or else you get a menu with just "0. Go back to Main Menu" when the index doesn't completely load.

I've found that if the index loads when you use ABC's iView website, then you'll often find that the index loads for the batch file version properly (and I'm guessing similar for iViewNapper). Luck of the draw I'm thinking :rolleyes:

Yes, parallels my experience. I don't have disk errors, anyway ;)

gxdata 12-01-2010 08:03 PM

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Off-topic, re VLC media player (v1.1.5) -
When a .TXT file with the exact same (primary) filename as the video (.mp4) file is in the same folder, VLC seems to regard it as a sub-titles file even if there is a .SRT file there.

any ANONYMOUS forum user 12-03-2010 01:02 AM

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Does anyone have an iPad to see where the new iPad app gets it's videos / API from? The iPad doesn't (usually) support RTMP so an iPad suggests that there may be a http delivery method now. I can't see any obvious urls in the binaries, but objective-c binaries aren't that obvious.

Yansky 12-06-2010 11:22 PM

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Slightly OT: this new GUI for rtmpdump on the mac looks pretty neat

gxdata 12-09-2010 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 23339)
Off-topic, re VLC media player (v1.1.5) -
When a .TXT file with the exact same (primary) filename as the video (.mp4) file is in the same folder, VLC seems to regard it as a sub-titles file even if there is a .SRT file there.

OK, I checked the VideoLan forums and there's some flux and discussion about the various subtitle formats, including a future version allowing 2 different subtitles per show. Numerous CC formats use the .TXT extension (though quite different internally), so my description files will have to use .DES or something else.

gxdata 12-09-2010 08:51 PM

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I was away for 9 days so missed Insiders for last Sunday.
Anywho, can you suggest how I can construct a suitable set of xml control files for the Batch Downloader? I don't have a "model" or template to guide me.
The download index does not currently list Insiders (though Inside Business is still there).

Anywho 12-10-2010 09:03 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 23562)
I was away for 9 days so missed Insiders for last Sunday.
Anywho, can you suggest how I can construct a suitable set of xml control files for the Batch Downloader? I don't have a "model" or template to guide me.
The download index does not currently list Insiders (though Inside Business is still there).

I'm not sure you can download it. Kind of strange seeing as it was the final one.

I've tried various permutations and each one comes up as "not on the server".

Code:

[Insiders 05/12/10][insiders_10_12_05.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][insiders_101205.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][the_insiders_10_12_05.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][the_insiders_101205.mp4]

:(

(edit: Don't forget to delete the zero-byte file after each attempt ;))

gxdata 12-10-2010 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23574)
I've tried various permutations and each one comes up as "not on the server".

Code:

[Insiders 05/12/10][insiders_10_12_05.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][insiders_101205.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][the_insiders_10_12_05.mp4]
[Insiders 05/12/10][the_insiders_101205.mp4]

(edit: Don't forget to delete the zero-byte file after each attempt ;))

This works -
Code:

[Insiders 05/12/10][news/insiders_101205.mp4]
Using your suggestion, I did what was obvious I guess and that was to see what the format was for other "news" programs, in particular Inside Business. The essential part was the path, of course.

Zero-byte files always trap me. Thanks for the reminder!

caleula 12-11-2010 07:18 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders


 
iViewNapper says "Fetching Episode" quickly when I try to download, however, the menu then disappears and the download doesn't commence. :mad:

Running out of ideas. 7mateNapper and SBSNapper both work fine.

Also, anybody know of a way to save downloads to another drive/directory?


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