How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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Yep. Looks like they rotate quickly with the ABC National News...

As an example, I just went to the iView website and tried to view the ABC National News for Saturday. It was 8pm here and the Program Info showed that it was uploaded 21 hours ago and only had an hour left before it expired. I went to watch it and I got the "Program is unavailable" message. So, even the info on their website was wrong!

I expect the same happens with the others you mention... We should perhaps chip in and buy them another hard drive seeing as they cannot afford to hold more than a day's worth of news programs at a time :D

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My observation is that it's an undiscplined, hit-and-miss operation. I'm sure they have plenty of resources for storage, etc - but the code maintenance is shoddy.

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The illegal character for "The Link" is a question mark in the file name.

Honestly, who puts question marks in file names... ABC have no idea.

So gxdata, is there any other programmes that are failing that I need to know about before updating iViewNapper?

It also fails in 'Lite as well, so I'll put a fix in there too.

[Edit] Just found this gem as well: "The Fabulous Beekman Boys\tSeries 1"

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Not that I know of, but 3 of the SBS shows passed by without my being able to download them - see my posts on Whirlpool. I think one of 4 was actually available (of course I also test with the SBS Player / iView's player).

Can I request in your changes to iViewNapper that the SRT files be downloaded by default?

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iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to version 20100816 and can be obtained from my website.

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You're confusing two separate things:
1. The Flash-based player does a geocheck before it starts playback (using http://www.abc.net.au/tv/geo/iview/geotest.xml)
2. The Flash Media Server does a completely separate geocheck when the RTMP connection is being established. If it fails then the stream is terminated with an error (code = NetConnection.Connect.Rejected, description = AccessManager.Reject: Access denied!)

The X-Forward-For header appears to be honoured by www.abc.net.au (running AkamaiGHost) but not cp53909.edgefcs.net (running Flash Media Server). So when you did the "Lifehacker method", the geocheck failed at step 1 and you saw the "overseas copyright" error. If you had somehow managed to continue past then point then you still would have been able to establish the RTMP connection because the geocheck would have succeeded at step 2.

The downloader programs skip step 1 completely and only do step 2 (after doing a separate HTTP request to retrieve the token). There is no geocheck on the token request nor is there a check that the token request and RTMP request originate from the same IP. This did not used to be the case - originally the geocheck was done during the token request and there was no check done by the Flash Media Server so therefore it was possible to use the X-Forward-For approach.

Therefore, as you said above, the only way to access iView programs from overseas is to use an Australian proxy or VPN. As far as I am concerned, their explanation of "copyright reasons" is absolute bollocks for the shows that the ABC actually creates themselves (I understand that there are special problems created by things such as news programs, where they are reproducing footage supplied to them by other agencies, but how can this apply to the 7:30 Report, Lateline, Australian Story, etc?).

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Now it makes sense. Cheers mate! :)

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Hey, a belated thanks goes to Peter Jeremy for updating the Technical details in the iView Downloaders Wiki page.

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LOL! So who's gonna be a spy for us? Yanksy, you? Cuz I'm not good enough :D

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Me. me. me. :D :D :D I lost my job a month ago. :(

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I think they've done it again.
One Plus One for 27/08/2010 seems to have a date in September - cannot download it.

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I'm a relative newbie. Apologies if there's a better place for this to be posted.

I'm having trouble lately with iviewnapper and iviewfox maxing out my bandwidth to the point where my home network hangs and almost everything (except the rtmpdump request) times out. Is it possible to put a speed limiter into the GUIs? As far as I understand it, rtmpdump has it as an option.

I am intending to research how to use rtmpdump from the command line myself (haven't taken the time yet), but it would be a great addition for the future.

(Also, any tips on why it is maxing out my bandwidth so badly?)

By the way, thank you so much for the work you guys do.

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Hi tabaxter,

You can experiment with adding your own command line options for the inbuilt bandwidth monitoring in RTMPDUMP by using and editing iViewNapperLite.

If you have troubles or you succeed, post back here with what you did and we'll see what we can do.

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Yep, the ABC have broken napper, napperlite & downloader.

Sorry, I just use them, the dos box says retrieving token a few tries then closes. :mad:

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.bat file still working ok for me with 2.2b rtmpdump & hostworks.

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I've tried .bat file again and the 1st show downloaded ok. the other two worked only after I deleted the old files (0 bytes).

No idea why it wouldn't work before. :confused:

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Off-topic, but an interesting report on ABC's video storage requirements:

http://www.computerworld.com.au/arti...storage_havoc/

ABC's video demands causing storage havoc
National broadcaster goes from 3TB in 2003 to 1600TB in 2010

3Tb - right now, that is not much storage at all, from my perspective.

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Hi,

It is a great tool for downloading iview.
I wonder the legal issues whether we can share ours downloaded movies? Any idea

Thanks

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Legal situation is covered in http://www.abc.net.au/copyright.htm

which includes this

# You may retrieve the ABC's materials for information only.
# You may save a local copy or send it to your printer for your own personal use or in order to inform authorised and potential users about the ABC materials. However, you may not make any charge for such use and any commercial exploitation is expressly prohibited.
© 2010 ABC
--
So no selling it is permitted, and no changing it either. It sounds as if you can send an email or post it to a discussion board. And saving to your hard disk or DVD is OK as long as it is local and not a distribution.

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mce, looks like Malwarebytes might be throwing a false-positive on the napper progs: http://whrl.pl/Rcp21j

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The terms of service for iView are different for the rest of the site though. Specifically: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/iview/faq.htm

Although you/I/we are not doing anything illegal, we are breaking the terms of service of the abc iview site.

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No. Sharing or re-distribution is a definite no-no and we won't talk about that here in this thread.

I guess the equivalent would be breaking 4C. of YouTube's TOS - and we know how many YouTube downloaders there are out there that YouTube don't "authorise".

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What's happened to the 7.30 Report (Thurs)? It's at the 7.30 website with small wmv and m4v files, but not on iView. That seems odd.:confused:

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It does not seem to appear in the index list with iviewnapper or iviewcmd.

However if you use iviewcmd to create a download entry for 08/09/10 and then manually edit the download_list.xml file to point to 09/09/10 instead of 08/09/10, then it will download.

I guess it is on the server, but not listed properly in the index (or else it has spurious characters that are confusing the index parser).

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Good thinking! I did that, and it is now downloading OK.

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I see and can download that episode using iViewNapper 20100816 and iViewNapperLite 20100816 as "7.30 Report 08-09-10.mp4".

Maybe they just added it?!?!

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No, "7.30 Report 08-09-10.mp4" has always been there. They wanted "7.30 Report 09-09-10.mp4". Unless you mean 08-09-10 is the same program as 09-09-10? It's not listed on the iView site and nobody has complained on their forum either (not very popular, eh?).

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As Anywho says, the Wed 8Sept 7.30 Report has been there a while, but as of today (Monday) the last for the week (Thurs) isn't. Maybe it will be remedied tomorrow.

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It's been fixed now. Thursday (9/Sep/10) and yesterday's (13/Sep/10) is up on iView :)

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Wed 22/09/2010 Lateline Business isn't listed.
What do I need to do to discover if this is a typo glitch, or if they just skipped a day (forgot to mount it)?
I reckon it's another typo problem.

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Looks like they haven't listed it. I used the batch file downloader to select the 23/09/2010 show and changed the filename in cache\download_list.xml.
Eg: Instead of news/latelinebusiness_100923.mp4 make it news/latelinebusiness_100922.mp4

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I did much the same - iViewNapper has a Debug switch, that writes a batch file; so in that .bat file I changed the episode info in a similar way to you and 'nothing happened'. Is there a switch in rtmpdump that shows a 'file not found' message? What's the URL for the cache\download_list.xml file?
Actually, I recall now that (a few weeks ago) when using the commandline batch downloader that you jointly authored, I edited that xml file while the batch operation was active, then re-ran the download request.

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Don't know why it didn't work for 'Napper, but I used iView_Downloader_v15.70.bat. Then I selected the 23/09/2010 show and went back to the main menu. After that, I edited the "download_list.xml" file (there should be a "cache" directory in the directory that iView_Downloader_v15.70.bat is in) so that the file name had the date changed from 23 to 22.

to

Then I selected the "Download the shows..." option and downloaded it. Yes, it is the 22/09/2010 show that I downloaded not the 23/09/2010 :)

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OK, have followed that and it's downloading.
Again, thanks for your help. :D

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Awesome - glad you got it figured out! :)

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The downloads in my client have to resume every 60 seconds. Has something changed? Can someone post an example command line input?

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No.

I have a problem with 3 videos, all in the series "triple j like a version 2010". Nothing else has been a problem today.

40, 41, 42 all hiccup severely at 56.5% and I have to terminate the rtmpdump.exe program.
[Edit]
Same problem 30/09

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RSS feed for Recently Added has changed -

see iView message board post
http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/M...624&ps=50&dm=2

You can check all iView feeds here -
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/iview/feeds.htm

Latest URL is -
http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/rss/recent.xml