www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

I have version StreamTransport 1.0.2.2041 , and know 2 other people with that version and none of them can capture itv,5od,4od any more.... same problem with american sites using HSS, and they always worked in the past.

Version 1.0.2.2041 either errors out or completely locks up
Version 1.0.2.2171 plays everything but downloads nothing.

BBC iplayer can be captured on pretty much anything because its just secure, not rtmpe.

After some digging around i found a load of previous versions hosted on a site and tried a few of them, and still the same problem...

So i think im going to give up.. ive never got my head around the rtmpdump thing and having already forked out for Replay Media Catcher (rmc) 3 and 4 in the past i dont think ill try GetFLV.

thanks to everyone for all the help and suggestions though....

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Nullacht
Given that I'm a) on Windows and b) don't have the compilers and linkers is there a pre-built binary for RTMPDump v2.3 r563 availoable for download?

Thanks

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

@blazegmc
i think my own creative posts made it clear and are proof enough (even though i dont live in UK or Hongkong) that these days the only working tool to capture Hulu (see other thread for my screenshots), iTV, and Channel4 4od is GetFLV. I also verified that GFLV v8.9.9.9 was not able to download the 4od whereas in GFLV v9.0.0.0 this was fixed. (I use a WindowsXP machine by the way.).

rtmpdump is always a working alternative (but primarily meant for non-Windows users like nullacht, hyc, a. o.) and freeware. i have some minimal working knowledge, but i prefer my Replay Media Catcher 4, GetFLV, and other Windows tools.

Regarding pocket money.. i rather enjoy supporting the coders' work with some bucks (as a symbolic act) instead of paying 10pounds for admission to a night club or 5pounds for a pint beer. The next time you spend some money for your very personal needs, pleasure or hobby (be it a book, CD, DVD, or similar "Amazon item") - think that it could have gone directly to the paypal account of a software coder and generated some honest smile of true joy in his/her face :cool:

Buying great little software tools to make their coders smile .. i REALLY LIKE that idea. I just want to show them that i care and support. You know.. maintaining good vibes. And joy.

:)

(ok, the price of GFLV is quite steep. yikes :o )
(( and there was no need to fork out for RMC. it's FREE with trialpay offers! ))

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

I've just spent 2 days trying to get rtmpdump working on Windows 7, XP, 2000 (server and workstation), 2003 (server and workstation) and Linux and 2.3 does NOT work at all! It seems to fail at the first response from the server.

For various reasons I cannot download and compile source code which leaves me using pre-compiled binaries.

nullacht reports that "v2.3 r563 works perfectly" but as yet I have been unable to find this version to test.

Looking at the StreamTransport website they say way 6 to 8 months for a fix! So I think it is fair to say this joins the ever growing ranks of abandonware.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

i have been using the regular v2.3 *.exe from the official download site, like you. Didnt work for me (and i am unwilling to do more rtmpdump testing. i hate that tool! :D And i have something much better: GetFLV :D :D :D ), as mentioned several times before.

During the 2 days of testing, instead of the testing you could have gone babysitting next door at your neighbour's and earned the pocket money to buy a Golden Version of GetFLV.

I guarantee you. Once you've tried GFLV on all those popular fancy sites (Hulu, Channel4, iTV, BBC iPlayer) and see how easy it is --GFLV doesnt crash anymore, but it sometimes freezes, or you have to reload the webpages or re-launch the application because GFLV doesnt catch the url's at the very first attempt. Eventually it does catch and download the url!-- you will never go back to trying rtmpdump.

I still test rtmpdump .. simply because i am a mod here, and i need to delete posts or users when they assert that rtmpdump downloads "perfect streams" and this assertion isnt true. So when people (other than me) begin to talk shit, i kick and delete their *ss. That's what a mod like me does. That's why i still fire up rtmpdump.exe once in a while. ;)

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

if you really want to compile rtmpdump for windows go ahead, but i will tell you i have already tried r563 and it does not work

this is the instructions to compile
http://srpenn82.blogspot.com/2011/03/rtmpdump.html

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

I am providing the precompiled binaries for rtmpdump in following post
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/sho...04&postcount=5

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

I'm obviously being dense 'cos I have now tested these binaries on Windows 7 & XP and they both failed.

Not disheartened (much) I build myself a Linux machine running Unbuntu 9.10 and downloaded and compiles it all for myself.

The good news is that my compile of rtmpsrv seems to work and I get a command listed however when I run the command all fails.

Command output is:-
rtmpdump -z -r "rtmpe://ll.securestream.channel4.com:1935/a4174/e1/?ovpfv=1.1&e=1301926737&ip=86.15.177.88&h=1090be4b 47321f78516a77ed8519af39" -a "a4174/e1/?ovpfv=1.1&e=1301926737&ip=86.15.177.88&h=1090be4b 47321f78516a77ed8519af39" -f "LNX 10,2,153,1" -W "http://www.channel4.com/static/programmes/asset/flash/swf/4odplayer-4.85.2.swf" -p "http://www.channel4.com/programmes/river-cottage/4od#3140235" -C Z: -y "mp4:xcuassets/CH4_08_02_16_49763003001001_001.mp4?e=1301926737&i p=86.15.177.88&h=1090be4b47321f78516a77ed8519af39" -o CH4_08_02_16_49763003001001_001.flv

and running this fails on both Windows and Linux.

Any suggestions?

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

the command (created by your rtmpsrv.exe) looks really really good. perfect. Mine was not different.

Then we edit back the host file (127.0.0.0 local host).

Finally we run the command. And if even UK-people fail to run this perfect command line, then .. either the command is wrong or rtmpdump simply does not work with Channel4 anymore.

Congrats to installing Linux and compiling your own rtmpdump binaries! :)

srpenn82 is an experienced IT dude (with coding, Linux and PC experience, see his homepage). If he says that he's tested it and that it didnt work, then i believe him. If some other person (nullacht, o.ä.) says that it works, then i dont believe it unless i see 100% unambiguous proof or evidence.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

There is no problem with compiled binaries. I am personally using these binaries on WinXP SP3. check screenshots below:

rtmpsrv for capturing url:


rtmpdump downloading rtmpe stream:


Many websites recently switched to Handshake 9 which is not yet implemented in rtmpdump so this may be the reason it's not working for the particular website you wanna download from.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

you say this when the truth is there is a glaring problem with the binaries, which is that they do not support type 9 RTMPE handshakes. many websites including hulu now require this handshake and rtmpdump will fail.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

i can confirm dad. im using myself the ksv binaries. thx for the share.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Did you even care to read the post? in last para i have clearly mentioned the RTMPE 9 for being the reason for nonworking of rtmpdump on some websites. if a feature is not yet supported by software how it can be compilation problem? :eek:

I didn't say that these binaries work on Hulu or 4OD. These sites also may have switched to new handshake which is not yet supported by rtmpdump. The purpose of screenshots was to show that they are properly compiled and work on sites that doesn't force Flash 10 handshake.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

OK so $1,000,000 question does anyone know when rtmpdump will work with 4OD and other sites using type 9 headers?
If it's such a problem then I'd expect all servers to move to this sooner (rather than later) to enforce/protect copyright and intellectual property rights etc.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

it will work when someone writes the code for it to work. as far as i know right now no one is even working on it.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Can someone please get me a video from ITV player, if they know how?

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

hi kerry, i'll try to help dillan.
interesting to note that iTV player does stream in different qualities. well, at least 2 different bitrates: low quality and standard quality.

and i think that GetFLV catches 2 url's. But they are not labelled accordingly (i.e. the fields in the "Bitrate"-column are empty!).

So you must play your luck. One of the url's (both of which look identical!) will download the higher quality stream, the other one the lower quality stream.

This should be fixed in future versions of GetFLV.

Downloading from ITV/4OD/Youtube Shows - What we know so far

 

• ITV/4OD have updated to a later version of Adobe and their "handshake" is now different, within the past 2 months.
• GetFLV 9.0 or later works, but this is expensive, and out of many people's price range.
• Replay Media Catcher can be updated to get BBC Iplayer RTMPE streams but nothing more.
• Get-Flash-Videos works (http://code.google.com/p/get-flash-v.../detail?id=248) but needs Debian
• The patch new updates use on RTMPDump is here (http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/...ch/001328.html)
• The rtmpdump update above seems to mention a file location (trunk/librtmp) Is anyone familiar with how to use this or even what Operating System this is for?

I'm looking to try and download this video as an example. http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=233770

By snooping and using an old version of GetFLV I had lying around, the corresponding rtmpe url is:

rtmpe://cp72511.edgefcs.net:1935/ond...V1200_16X9.MP4

If anyone knows anything else or have managed to get it working, please let me know. Thank you very much!

Re: Downloading from ITV/4OD/Youtube Shows - What we know so far

 

The "handshake" is type 9 RTMPE handshake

The handshake is used with RTMPE streams. rtmpdump cannot handle sites that require a type 9 handshake, until someone makes a patch for it.

get-flash-videos relies on rtmpdump for RTMP streams, hence if rtmpdump does not work, then get-flash-videos is definitely not going to work.

the file you are referring to (handshake.h) is a source file. for it to be of use it has to be compiled into the rtmpdump program. i have instructions for windows here

http://svnpenn.blogspot.com/2011/03/rtmpdump.html

Finally, You have shown that you do not know about:
1. get-flash-videos
2. source code
3. compiling programs
4. programming in general

a more appropriate thread title would be "What I know so far" or "Hey guys how do I download from ITV"

Re: Downloading from ITV/4OD/Youtube Shows - What we know so far

 

Ok, thanks for replying Steven. I'm a secret fan of your blog by the way, you're very clever when it comes to techie stuff. I am unfortunately not gifted in the compiling.

Re: Downloading from ITV/4OD/Youtube Shows - What we know so far

 

even more appropriate is to merge threads covering the same topic ("i want to leech FREE itv or 4od streams, plz heeelp!!"). SRF abounds with threads starting all the same way treating similar aspects of a subject. Subject here is itv/4od, aspect is the knowledge of howtodownload from there.

@jimmycarlos
thanks for the summary and the link to The rtmpdump Archives, new to me! I cant do but primitive coding and yes GFLV is costly .. but in turn i have a healthy, sound attitude: i pay and they do the coding job :D The high price tag isnt unjustified since these days there is no competition by neither freeware nor payware. If you're a techie or coder by heart then you'd never be interested in purchasing downloaders .. otherwise you may leave your personal comments and suggestions ("its my birthday, plz give me free copy of GetFLV Golden Version!") here:
GetFLV user reviews, user feedback & suggestions

And here is what i know:
StreamTransport [ST], a freeware RTMPE-downloader GUI, did the trick with 4OD/iTV in the past but the developer ("Tery"; not to be confused with "Terry" ;) ) has put the development on hold. Note that ST is "owned" by Jack King who runs the commercial variants of ST on his other 100+ :eek: business websites, such as moyea.com, foxreal.com, FLVsoft.com, etc. I am inclined to say that someone who runs 100 websites (in order to promote his few low quality products under different names) abuses the Google SEO ("spammer!") but for sure he must be very busy making money :rolleyes:, so no time left for frequent ST updates! :(

Maybe he even decided to abandon ST (=appetizer for Moyea/Foxreal/FLVsoft/.. clone products!) and sell exclusively commercial products instead. I'll ask him about news and his plans..

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

After a crash course in compiling and some help from a good friend, I've learnt to download from ITV Player. Just so everyone knows, overpriced software is not the only option.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

How you do it JimmyCarlos?Mind to help? Just got back to my country from UK after studying few years there. I miss watching all the shows! PLEASE HELP! Thanks

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Trying to download this video here:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/b...ie-special/4od

But all I get is this error (using rtmpdump-2.1d-window):

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Re: Downloading from ITV/4OD/Youtube Shows - What we know so far

 

@chap
steven said that rtmpdump doesnt work here.
Steven?

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

honestly until Hulu is working again I have lost interest

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Hey chap, thank you for your reply.

I still don't see why I cannot download the video.

I see you have rtmpdump inside a folder called "rtmpdump-2.3", although you are using "rtmpdump2.1d.exe"
I downloaded rtmpdum from here: http://rtmpdump.mplayerhq.hu/download/, is there anything different I should do?


I'm using RTMPexplorer to get the command, which seems pretty much the same as yours... tried it again, but no success. What could I be doing wrong?

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

At you all is correct - I don't have order on the computer.:(

disable the firewall.
Try this set(rtmpexplorer=rtmpsrv569:cool:(KSV),rtmpdump2.1 d) _http://www.mediafire.com/?7ga8hdxayi46tmq

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

S., it works, check it out!


Thanks chap.

trying in vain to capture Channel 4 video clip

 

Hi - can anyone help me? I'm trying to download a video which occurs on channel 4.com and YouTube featuring Tim Vine. The two URLs respectively are:

_http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4thoughttv/4od#3130243

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r13sG3Bs9c8




They just refuse to come over on any software I have used. I'm no expert on this, so if you have any advice, it needs to be basic for my little brain.

Tri311

Re: trying in vain to capture Channel 4 video clip

 

GetFLV can download channel 4 videos no problem.:cool:

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

i was unable to play your YouTube video from my location. i have also tried US and UK VPN but couldn't play it. you can try to grab it using RTMPexplorer + rtmpdump package.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Hey chap, thanks for your help.
I think the problem is I cannot get the video 'cause, even though RTMPexplorer captures the url and parameters, the video doesn't start playing in the browser, so it won't start recording; and I guess that's because of the crappy proxy I use, hehe.

Anyhow, thank you!

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

yes I the same happens to me, you need to clear temporary folders, cookies. Use CCleaner for example. Only then it starts to play.

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Just tried with a VPN connection.
The video didn't start playing, but I finally got the file... so great!

@tri311 Could't get the YouTube one, while viewing the page on RTMPexplorer YouTube said there had been an error, somewhat like what happens with CooJah when trying to get a video from an rtmps stream... here's the one on 4oD: http://www.mediafire.com/?wozy6625ptc2y7u

Cheers!

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

We have fixed a little bug of 4OD streams detecting. Latest GetFLV can download channel 4 videos no problem.
:cool:

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

i wonder if you have the time to give me a bit of guidance here [using Ubuntu 11.10]

i read your post here


and cannot see how to get started


i want to get this video

Quote:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/u...ld/4od#3268163

and do not really know how to handle rtmpdump


could you tell me how i get all the info i need to start strting with

Quote:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/u...ld/4od#3268163

i found this here section 4. but it does not seem to fly

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

Hi shantiq
The command I used is here ---> ___http://pastebin.com/ibygBeSf
The method used is in post #10 here ---> ___http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1536508

Re: www.channel4.com: Any way to capture video from the new 4OD service?

 

hi bat thank you for this [altho so far no cigar on my setup:p ]



straight command gave me this

===========

Then used this section from linked post


sadly does not work on my system at this time
the step between

and reload and play seems to confuse something and it gives me



the wheel keeps on turning and video does not start up again

if i try the rtmpdump line i get this


will try again at some other time

thanx for info