How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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Having not used a napper for a large amount of time...can someone show me a permalink on how to setup the resource code from the nappers page ??? looked through the links but can't see an idiots guide:confused: :confused:

many thanks in advance

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Hi,

Trouble with "The men who made us thin part 2"

Iview is fine, napper errors at connection.

Other programs are fine.

Cheers

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Hi
I just came to post about The Men Who Made Us Thin ep 2 & saw Wahroonga Farm beat me to it.
I tried last night & today, it just starts up ok, says
Connecting....
INFO Connected...

then RTMPdump quits, leaving a 0kb file. It downloaded the subtitles though.
I'm using 22-02-2014 version (haven't tried an older one yet)
EDIT: just tried the 19-01-2014 version & it does the same thing. iviewnapper still runs after & i'm able to choose another program & it downloads fine, so it's just this episode for some reason.

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It's odd as iView actually works fine.

I had to torrent it. :eek:

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The Men Who Made Us Thin - Episode 3 'Naps fine', so somehow a glitch in the ABC system for Epsiode 2?

It is a good watch.

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just tried pt2 again & saw it come up with failed to find NetStream. or something similar, because the window closed slower than usual. Now the window closes too fast for me to see what the error was.
How can i set it so the window stays open when it's finished?

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How can I get Ep2 of "The Men Who Made Us Thin"? Has anyone done so?

It will disappear quite soon.

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I regret to inform you all that I will not be maintaining any Nappers projects from this day on.

Downloads will still be available for the foreseeable future on http://www.nappers.net.

It is time to pass the mantle onto the next generation of coders for these types of programs.

Thanks for all the feedback and help over the 5 or so years, as without you the users of the Nappers, these projects would not have been possible.

Cheers all.

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Thanks MCE.

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Many thanks for your time and efforts over the years.

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Well....Damn.

Came on to see if I had the latest batch, as was hoping to try the "old ep" trick, only to find that yes I do, so it doesn't work, and that mce has called it quits :'(

So before I say farewell, I got to ask, will you be making the source code to the nappers available so that those smarter than I can maintain and/or build upon the great work you've done (and perhaps we'll even get the batch up and running again)?

Thanks mce for all your work and dedication to this little group.

So long and thanks for all the fish...

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Many thanks to you, mce! It's been great.
Is anyone out there going to meet the challenge? ;)

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Has anyone taken up IviewNapper? 20140222 has stopped working for me :( - looks like the site meta data format has changed:confused: .

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It has stopped for me also. I think I was using it in mid-change, had images initially then blank.

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Unless the source for iViewNapper has been made available, is there any working alternative downloader now that the data format has changed?

The menu still loads, it just doesn't access the individual sections anymore. It is probably just a minor change, but enough to break Napper. :(

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I think that iViewNapper accessed the ABC site to get the list of programs and the URL for where they are stored on their server, and the "Fetch" button simply completed the parameters for RTMPdump to go off and do the work.

Getting source code would really help.

The problem is that there are too many parameters that need to be offered to the program before it can download. I wish I had captured a screen dump of RTMPdump in action after iViewNapper had started it off fetching.

If someone else out there has something, that could help with which parameters to use. It should even be possible to just run RTMPdump from a command line if we knew the parameters to use. The URL can be found on the iView web page by looking in the page source.

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I do not know exactly, but there should be a software with which you can record TV stations in all languages ​​worldwide. try this link
http://strom.ulango.tv/en/smart-tv-apps

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It's back....

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Is this what you mean??

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Weird. Wonder if what happened was intentional, a beta update that got released too early, or if they never intended to change the data format in the first place.

Or maybe they saw a significant drop in iView usage since a lot of people were suddenly not 'using' it anymore.

...Now would be a good time to sniff Nappers traffic to see how it accesses the data.

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It's a non-trivial exercise to analyze the intermediate metadata on a "system change", and turn that into code like the 'Napper uses. I did it myself prior to November last year but I'm not up to speed with the necessary changes that [*mce] has made since, due to time constraints, and that hasn't changed.
If iView is back to normal, and 'Napper works OK for the next 3-4 weeks, I will look at the 'metadata' and re-write my code in preparation for yet another iView change.
But no promises.

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I just want to point out that since iViewNapper is a .NET program, the complete source code can be retrieved from the .exe file by using a free decompiler such as ILSpy, or similar.

No need to get the source code from MCE!

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It's a possibility to decompile, but much simpler if mce could make the code available.

I would be willing to make the upgrades - eg, the buffer for the catalogue encoding that the March 2014 version of SBSNapper handles has been exceeded in the last weeks (I haven't tried since late August), so an increase in that buffer value in code would allow the SBSNapper to handle today's available load.

(I do know that this is the iView thread, btw)

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iviewnapper is still working ok for me (well it was last night)
sbsnapper has the json error
"Error during serialization or deserialization using the JSON JavaScriptSerializer. The length of the string exceeds the value set on the maxJsonLength property."
sbs napper was working fine 2 days ago (i often leave it open, so is this kind of thing onnly noticed when opening the program? like it won't affect it if it's already open)

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As far as I know, leaving SBS Napper open means you are not reading the latest programme catalogue from the servers, you have what was read at SBS Napper startup. After a couple of days the data is going to be "stale" with new programmes missing and old programmes you still have listed in fact "taken down" and no longer available.

I did hear discussion a while back that SBS are lazy and in fact just remove stuff from the catalogue, but NOT from the server, and you can in fact retrieve "removed" programmes if you can craft (or have) an appropriate CURL query to issue :-)

Calvin.

BTW: Again apologies, I KNOW this is the iViewNapper thread, but I thought it best to respond where the comment was posted.

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Yeh, which is why I'm bummed I closed it. I could probably still download the things I wanted to (just not the new ones)

iview napper seems to add new episodes, but not series. So you can leave it open & it will update, but not new series.

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PaleWing, In case you haven't noticed, MCE updated SBSnapper on the 9th, allows downloading of everything except HDS streams.

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G'day folks,

iViewRipper is my attempt at making an alternative piece of software to iViewNapper. The interface is really fast & I have added some extra channels and a search tool. Otherwise it works in a very similar way to iViewNapper. It's brand new, i've only spent time over the past couple of weeks, so please bear with me ! I've uploaded a a BETA version that is basically stable but i'd love to hear people's feedback & ideas about this !

The software can be downloaded from my iViewRipper FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/iViewRipper

Cheers =) M3M1E

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I'll have a play.

thanks for your input. :)

Edit: Seems to max my 6/1 satellite link just fine.

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Had a quick look, and is certainly a prettier alternative, works well and loads the program list faster to boot.

A few things about the ui.

1. It's huge, it takes up 1.5+ times the width that iviewNapper does on my screen, and about 1.2 times the height.

2. The Exit button is not really necessary, or should be below the 'about' button (I can see accidental exits when trying to click 'panel', and maybe even 'educational' from where it currently sits rather than accidental wrong genre pick).

3 Don't like how categories are essentially split into 3 parts, with the channels on top, genres to the right, and overview (home) in the middle. If could be made to fit, shrink the buttons down and have all in single column, or more likely a double column on the right.

4. Were you to follow my opinions above, the search bar (great to have that BTW) would end up being 'orphaned') so assuming 'exit' moved to under 'about'/removed, and double columns with 'home' being moved to where the exit button currently is (more or less) then move the search bar to where home currently is, then eliminate as much unnecessary negative space, by reduction first, then stretching the elements to fit what cant be eliminated.

If interested I could do a diagram of what I mean (tried doing a mock up by editing a screenshot, but that was a total mess)

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Good suggestions b.e.

BTW I do like the full screen option and I always thought the old napper was a bit smallish, real estate wise.

Search is great.

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Hey blood.eaglz & Wahroonga Farm
Many thanks for the feedback !!!!
Definitely want to improve the UI & more than happy to listen to any suggestions/ideas. I'm sure with a bit of tweaking it could be heaps better. I'm glad you like the "maximize" feature and search features :)
Eventually I want to put progress monitors inside the UI for the rtmp process(es) that are spawned. Well I have quite a few ideas actually...
At this stage just glad to get it out there and hopefully build up a bit of a user-base - then I might start a webpage for it if people like the s/w.
Cheers :D
https://www.facebook.com/iViewRipper

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It is certainly fast, and to my taste is a suitable size and has nice features. Excellent job!!:)

Maybe a few tweaks could be done..

This link shows images of a version I wrote almost a year ago (27/11/2013), but the iView catalogue metadata overtook my time constraints due to some major personal changes, and it is very faulty now.

These are small images on Dropbox.

There are some configuration toggles (but not persisted to a settings file on disk), to save or not save captions, descriptions, series images, and a log file. Download rates, sizes, etc were saved into the log file and the description file had a little extra info, too (download rate & size, etc).

Also found I like to see some of the iView trailers, refresh the series catalogue, etc. I mused about multiple downloads, had versions that did that too. Checking for possibility of user DL the same show multi times held me back - but for my own use, of course I wouldn't do that ... ;)

Also possible with mine (when working) to rename some shows before the download began (all of the download set would be renamed). Checked for odd characters in filenames, etc of course.

Just a few ideas and UI ideas you may like to steal, or not. Also, I spent a bit of time on useability ("UX") - where buttons etc were placed, distance mouse had to travel, etc.

Just a pity it doesn't work any more!!!

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hey M3M1E,

just a minor bug report, your dynamic "view episodes"/"download" button will not change if you double click the series list rather than click the button, which can be a bit confusing when you see "view episodes" when you're already viewing them expecting the "download" button.

That may be why mce went with the ubiquitous "fetch", rather than deal with dynamic buttons?

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Yes noticed the same thing. A bit confusing.

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G'day again blood.eaglz & Wahroonga Farm,
Ahh cool yep I was just able to repeat that bug - will fix asap & let you guys know when it's done !!
I've been playing around with the UI/layout but I just end up going around in circles a lot hehe oh well it's coming along.
Cheers =) M3M1E
https://www.facebook.com/iViewRipper

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OK folks i've made a v1.01 with a few bug fixes & tweaks.

Still got lots of ideas & a long to-do list but i'll release this anyway so we can all be up-do-date !!

You can grab the latest via the FB page here:
https://www.facebook.com/iViewRipper

A huge shout out to blood.eaglz, Wahroonga Farm & gxdata for your feedback guys :) It means a lot. M3M1E

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More on the dynamic View Episodes/Download button:
If you click on one of the channel or theme buttons on the right, it doesn't revert to View Episodes if it was displaying Downloads just prior to that.

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Do you still have a copy of iViewHelper somewhere (Dropbox maybe)?
I'd like to tinker round if you're agreeable.

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Good spot m4rk01 ! Thanks
Will fix tonight (so it will be in next release)....
Cheers =)