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digital concert hall - no capture

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svnpenn 04-17-2012 09:34 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jagareco
can you specify what elements must have this software for being able to capture the video, with the current configuration?

Or you could, oh I dont know, read the thread?

Stream Ripper 04-18-2012 12:09 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svnpenn (Post 43580)
Or you could, oh I dont know, read the thread?

But that involves work! :(

kl2012 04-18-2012 04:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradius (Post 43574)
Well they sucks, IDM too.

"I'm afraid that our development group says that such sites are not widespread and popular enough to be a priority in implementation they have queue of features to implement."

So no ETA, they just jumped out the boat.

Suggestions? I'm even looking for commercial software.

I'm a layperson in the subject of this forum. As far as I understand the discussion and the whitepaper on Adobe Dynamic Streaming:

1) IDM needs to implement an algorithm to handle the Adobe Dynamic Streaming Technology (e.g. read meta data from container files to get information how the stream is segmented into small files). The Adobe Dynamic Streaming is or will become a widespread technology. I think, if they don't implement these feature to handle dynamic streaming, capturing video streams on websites with really interesting content won't be possible anymore (I think, such media websites will more and more use an adaptive bitrate streaming implementation that supports protecting video content, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptiv...ate_streaming).

2) As far as I understand Dynamic Streaming, file segments are encrypted. So, IDM had to know the specific keys used for content on this specific website or they find a generic algorithm that can find these keys itself.

So, what did they say? Do they still want to support Adobe Adaptive Streaming in the near future (even if it wouldn't work with this specific website)?

Gradius 04-18-2012 07:16 PM

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They just told me in the end "no ETA". :rolleyes: Simple like that.

IDM is a commercial software, I payed for it (I know lots just use a cracked/spyed version).

Well, I refuse to support such a thing, I payed for Digital Concert as well, and will NEVER re-subscribe if I cannot download the stuff, because is not practical at all to watch it in "realtime" when Internet never was meant to be "realtime" in first place (there will always be delays, links coming down, hijacked networks, etc, etc). Imagine watching a concert and then... BANG!, super delay or even link/connection lost! Then you need to re-watching it from start? No way!

I just don't understand why Digital Concert won't permit download of content for those payable users, after all, they produce a lot content in a year, so they never will miss new subscribes, even re-subscribes.

So in the end, WE ALL loose! :rolleyes:

Gradius 04-18-2012 07:35 PM

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I did a downgrade on flash version, and guess what?

"Please update Adobe® Flash® to version 11 to ensure the best viewing experience."

Figures. :rolleyes:

This #&@!@$* started at v11.

svnpenn 04-18-2012 07:39 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradius
They just told me in the end "no ETA"

They would be trying to develop a decoder for F4F files, something which there is NO whitepaper, currently under NDA by Adobe. FFmpeg developers nor Bluecop have a solution for this yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradius
I payed for Digital Concert as well

I payed for 1 month of Hulu+ so I could download 60 GB of older videos, then cancel it. The best you can do is cancel your sub to digital concert and make it known of their terrible service, which you have done. Any complaints to them directly will fall on deaf ears Im sure and not worth your breath. They dont permit download because THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS. Poor tech and poor service will be their end, such as Adobe already failed on tablet PCs. I am a happy paying customer to VIMEO because they have good tech and CARE about their customers.

Gradius 04-23-2012 12:11 PM

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Well, I like the CONTENT from Digital Concert Hall, unfortunately they do those crappy things like: you CANNOT download, even if is LOW quality!

Sigh. Any other site like Digital Concert Hall? With download possibility?

I cannot cancel something I payed for a whole year. :(

svnpenn 04-23-2012 12:37 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Here is a more recent comment

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adobe employee, Nikhil Pavan Kalyan, 2011-6-25
The official F4F specification is only available , as of now, through an NDA. The following thread gives all the details : http://forums.adobe.com/thread/685558


KSV 04-23-2012 12:42 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
i have written a small php script to join HDS fragments. i will post it soon in a new thread.

KSV 04-23-2012 08:33 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/ado...er-t12074.html

jagareco 04-24-2012 05:30 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
many thanks. i want to try right now, but my Screen Capture software doesn´t recognize f4f segments. what software are you using for catch this files, previous to join them with your script?

jagareco 04-26-2012 07:48 AM

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sorry, is not screen software. its any software for capture those segments

BarryGF 07-21-2012 11:32 AM

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Hi guys, I hope you don't mind if I resurrect this thread. I guess if anyone had come up with a ready solution it would be evident by now, but I have noticed something I don't quite understand. (Nothing unusual there.) I've been used to seriously downloading everything on the DCH with Hidownload Platinum, no trouble at all. Now I try again after a period of some months, and it doesn't work. (You know this.) But HiD still sniffs out and recognises the trailers and freebies and downloads those. So are they differently coded from the main streams? And does that suggest any clues as to a way in to the main streams?

svnpenn 07-21-2012 04:17 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
I you want help you will need to post or PM:

URL
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BarryGF 07-22-2012 10:49 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Sorry, do you mean me?

I don't think I need help (whatever my wife says :( ) particularly. I just wondered if anyone had been giving any thought to this in recent weeks. It's a big disappointment not to be able to d/l the DCH. No doubt someone in Berlin took the decision to change the coding, but I think it's a self-defeating decision really.

svnpenn 07-22-2012 10:56 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryGF
Sorry, do you mean me?

I you want help you will need to post or PM:

URL
login
pass

wepae46 07-28-2012 03:01 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svnpenn (Post 49661)
I you want help you will need to post or PM:

URL
login
pass

I sent you my login info by PM.

svnpenn 07-28-2012 05:57 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wepae46 (Post 50042)
I sent you my login info by PM.

Sorry, I just noticed this

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSV
DCH also uses encrypted fragments which is not supported by this script so you shouldn't bother yourself with this script if DCH is your only target.

stream-recorder.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47983&postcount=130

wepae46 07-28-2012 02:10 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
I don't know if it helps but I found that Chrome's extension "FVD Video Downloader" allows saving of all the segments from the site as they are played. I previously tried without success to download the segments by adding ".f4f" extension to Jaksta (the segments were identified by Jaksta but were downloaded as zero size files even if without transformation).

With FVDVD first it shows a "data.swf" file followed by a lot of segments with some strange names (of course none of them readable by its own).

Now I see some problems:
- (a minor one) downloading all files from the site for a video that was played (as FVDVD only allows downloading for one file at a time and not a whole batch);
- (a large one) decrypt the individual files;
- (possibly minor) re-joining the individual files (or maybe the order of the last two steps would be different).

KSV 07-28-2012 02:44 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wepae46 (Post 50078)
Now I see some problems:
- (a minor one) downloading all files from the site for a video that was played (as FVDVD only allows downloading for one file at a time and not a whole batch);
- (a large one) decrypt the individual files;
- (possibly minor) re-joining the individual files (or maybe the order of the last two steps would be different).

you can use my AdobeHDS script to download HDS streams but the main (and still unsolved) problem is removing DRM used by them.

MikeO 09-21-2012 08:12 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Sony blue ray players (eg BDP-S390) can play DCH over the internet through Sony Entertainment Network association. The player also has a composite video output. This can be connected as input to a Topfield PVR (eg TRF-2460) an it's HDMI output connected to a TV. The PVR can record the analog input as it is passed through to the TV!!! Not ideal but very acceptable.

chap 12-31-2012 01:58 AM

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if you are interested;)
http://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/play/50-1

Code:

php AdobeHDS.php --manifest "http://hdsvod.digitalconcert
hall.com/z/0809/20090106_1_dvorak_slavonic-dance/h264_high_,0700,1100,1500,2000,
2500,.mp4.csmil/manifest.f4m?__b__=1500&hdnea=st=1356943953~exp=1356944013~acl=/
z/0809/20090106_1_dvorak_slavonic-dance/h264_high_,0700,1100,1500,2000,2500,.mp4
*~id=248966~hmac=b7c71f155102a923a8d5d5a301e6053b2562e9a7040d7deb35b58ee6c902190
d&hdcore=2.10.3&hdcore=2.10.3&g=XJMYYJKZJDBF" --delete --auth "hdntl=exp=1357030
356~acl=%2fz%2f0809%2f20090106_1_dvorak_slavonic-dance%2fh264_high_,0700,1100,15
00,2000,2500,.mp4*~data=hdntl~hmac=e9d8e55f4cd19adb1d162606e41dccf187e554811721f
611c64847cd7ad77564&__b__=1500&hdcore=2.10.3&als=0,0.5,0,4,0,NaN,0,0,0,60,f,0,15
75.1,f,s,XJMYYJKZJDBF,2.10.3,60&hdcore=2.10.3" --useragent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
 NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0"

                            KSV Adobe HDS Downloader

Processing manifest info....
Quality Selection:
 Available: 2496 1968 1473 1051 659
 Selected : 2496
Downloading 101/262 fragments
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KSV 12-31-2012 06:59 AM

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Yeah, they seem to have turned off encryption probably only for some selected videos.

BBZ 03-07-2013 05:26 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
I use the Audials Moviebox 10 with "Record from Screen".
Had in the beginning problems with the Sound, but this is solved and was a problem of the settings of the soundcard.
Now sound ist nearly perfect.
The movie has good quality (DVD) but sometime it is not "round" - that means it stops for 1 or two frames (i think a problem of the internet-connection).
I think "Try it."

Gradius 03-23-2013 12:01 PM

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While they still refuses to allow download streaming (for those whom payed for), and even thought all those videos are LOW QUALITY (even at highest bitrate they have) I will not subscribe ever again, until they allow download it ! :mad:

Appleman 05-23-2013 08:37 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
They've changed everything again. There are no f4f files anymore. Now files have .ts extension, but aren't usual ts extension that you can play with VLC. Anyone has an idea?:confused:

http://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/play/50-1

getflv 05-28-2013 06:14 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appleman (Post 62366)
They've changed everything again. There are no f4f files anymore. Now files have .ts extension, but aren't usual ts extension that you can play with VLC. Anyone has an idea?:confused:

http://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/play/50-1

It's drm m3u8 stream now. Latest GetFLV can help you.:cool:

Gradius 03-21-2014 09:58 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
First of all, very sorry for this bump.

I want to know if someone managed to capture in better way or not, since we don't have any reply since 2013.

If is still not possible, they (DCH) is very stupid as is losing a lot clients for sure. Me as example, have payed a whole year and never renew again due to be impossible to capture with good quality and/or an easy way. DCH in live stream is totally impractial as Internet will always have problems while transmiting files that way.

Imagine watching a concert and then it stops for buffering. No way!

Gradius 10-04-2014 09:37 AM

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Just wanted to warning everybody about GetFLV.

Never buy it, the author is a scammer, I had to ask for PayPal assistance for the refund, proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL81B9BSPe0

Yes, that's me on replies.

denobis 10-04-2014 10:13 AM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Atresdownloader will support dch.

Edit:

Now its supported

ayxaaron 08-17-2016 02:14 PM

Re: digital concert hall - no capture


 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denobis (Post 71190)
Atresdownloader will support dch.

Edit:

Now its supported

Can't get Atresdownloader to work. It hangs when it says 'getting manifest m3u8'


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