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How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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blood.eaglz 04-01-2011 03:56 AM

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are any of these episodes iview only? eg ep missed on tv but still put up on iview?, or iview exclusive runs of the show? as then there would be no broadcast date.

otherwise likely human error (yesterday I saw an episode of at the movies whose home site link pointed to message stick)

Conest 04-15-2011 06:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceghost (Post 26577)
So is anyone running iViewNapperLite ok currently or are you also getting the script error (shown by me here)?

I get this too. It had been fine up till now but I also note I have loaded IE9. Could this be an impact?? iViewNapper works fine.

mce 04-15-2011 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Conest (Post 27586)
I get this too. It had been fine up till now but I also note I have loaded IE9. Could this be an impact?? iViewNapper works fine.

What are you doing to get this? What show are you trying to get?

Yansky 04-16-2011 01:20 AM

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Some flash streaming server news:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...ng-for-ios.ars

gxdata 04-17-2011 03:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yansky (Post 27594)

So, will iView, SBS Player, etc change in the short-term (3-6 months)?

gxdata 04-17-2011 03:11 AM

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Over a few months now, I have noticed that SBSNapper downloads quite slowly (and does not resume at all), whereas iViewNapper downloads very much faster.
When I try (something silly) starting iViewNapper when SBSNapper is already downloading, the latter grinds to a halt.

All of which leads up to this interesting conversation on the rtmpdump message thread -

> But when we use player
> from the site I can see that there is no NetStream.Pause.Notify and other commands
> from this sequence in the stream. So, behavior of the server is different for their player
> and for rtmpdump.


Then you really need to see why the stream is timing out in the first place.
Probably the server doesn't like the large buffersize that rtmpdump uses by default, and you'll need to use a smaller buffer (and thus download more slowly).


Perhaps changing the buffer size in one or other of the 'Nappers would be helpful for more successful downloads?

Of course, I'm neglecting factors like the server load, client connections, etc - but I thought it interesting.

Yansky 04-17-2011 03:18 AM

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I've updated the Firefox extension (There was a bug making it not work in Firefox 3.6).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...wfox/versions/

kindleportal 04-18-2011 01:14 AM

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yah have some problems but we can solve this problems to use Mozilla Firefox pick check it.

gxdata 04-25-2011 11:45 PM

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Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?

Anywho 04-26-2011 04:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 28045)
Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?

Not sure, but if it's HTML5*, then it would likely be H264. See Usage on this WikiPedia page ;)

* Although this article says it isn't HTML5

Stream Recorder 04-26-2011 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 28045)
Does anyone know what video format is streamed to the iView iPad app (using HTML5 video)?

I know 2 kind of HTML5 videos: H.264 and WebM.

gxdata 04-27-2011 01:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28056)
Not sure, but if it's HTML5*, then it would likely be H264. See Usage on this WikiPedia page ;)

* Although this article says it isn't HTML5

Interesting - better info than I was seeing. I'll get someone to download the "app" (ugh!) from iTunes, and take a look.

Yes, I had seen some chat about the 2 formats in contention for HTML5 video, as mentioned by Stream Recorder

Conest 04-27-2011 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 27587)
What are you doing to get this? What show are you trying to get?

I am simply running the .hta file. A blank iViewNapperLite window with empty frames comes up and then the "Script Error" message appears. It does not get to the point where shows are listed. As indicated before I have just loaded IE9 which appeared to be when the issue started. I had been running version 20110320 successfully prior. Straight iViewNapper works fine.

Text of the error message follows.

An error has occurred in the script on this page.

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs

Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

Anywho 04-27-2011 06:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Conest (Post 28159)
I am simply running the .hta file. A blank iViewNapperLite window with empty frames comes up and then the "Script Error" message appears. It does not get to the point where shows are listed. As indicated before I have just loaded IE9 which appeared to be when the issue started. I had been running version 20110320 successfully prior. Straight iViewNapper works fine.

Text of the error message follows.

An error has occurred in the script on this page.

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs

Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

I'm seeing this too. Windows7/64-SP1. See this screencap ;)

Just doesn't get to anything other than what's in that screencap.

mce 04-28-2011 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Line: 39
Char: 3
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: file:///C:/iView%20Napper%20Lite/iViewNapperLite_20110320/ivnlite.vbs
This is the first time iVNL interacts with the JSON file, the Object error means that there is no JSON file to interact with.

When you get this error, if you guys could put the following URLs into the browser or use WGET and see if anything is returned, I suspect it isn't.

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=a-l
http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=m-z

If these return blank then it is a problem at iView.

I myself am experiencing an error in line 102, and will check on that later.

[edit]

A Whirlpool user "Complete Looney" has suggested a fix, which I will implement later today, look out for an update.

Anywho 04-28-2011 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 28184)
This is the first time iVNL interacts with the JSON file, the Object error means that there is no JSON file to interact with.

Actually there is - I put a "MsgBox(myJSON)" in the code and this is the result.

Quote:

When you get this error, if you guys could put the following URLs into the browser or use WGET and see if anything is returned, I suspect it isn't.

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=a-l
http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?keyword=m-z

If these return blank then it is a problem at iView.
No, they always work - everytime.

Quote:

I myself am experiencing an error in line 102, and will check on that later.
Good... Serves you right :p

Quote:

[edit]
A Whirlpool user "Complete Looney" has suggested a fix, which I will implement later today, look out for an update.
It better work... Or you're fired :D

gxdata 04-28-2011 07:50 PM

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At The Movies Series 7- OK with the Batch Downloader, but iViewNapper fails with an error -

Quote:

the given key was not in the dictionary
This error occurs when fetching the Series (ie, it's not an absent Episode) - seems like it is the missing Series description element in the JSON file?

mce 04-28-2011 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 28186)
At The Movies Series 7- OK with the Batch Downloader, but iViewNapper fails with an error -

This error occurs when fetching the Series (ie, it's not an absent Episode) - seems like it is the missing Series description element in the JSON file?

Blame ABC.

ABC must be coding this stuff by hand because if they were using a half decent CMS, it would not allow bad data through.

P.S. Anywho

When fixed, I'm asking for a pay rise. :)

[Edit]

I've applied the "No description" fix to both 'Nappers.

gxdata 04-28-2011 09:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 28188)
Blame ABC.

ABC must be coding this stuff by hand because if they were using a half decent CMS, it would not allow bad data through.

Yeh, I'm amazed at some of the boo-boos, that must be due to someone's hand-coding.
Probably a different team/section, but their RSS feeds are similarly error-prone.

But I guess we need to error trap for null data right through the iView JSON.

mce 04-28-2011 10:14 PM

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Both iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to Version 20110429 and are available on their websites

Anywho 04-29-2011 12:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 28194)
Both iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to Version 20110429 and are available on their websites

Still broken... Screenshot here. :(

mce 04-29-2011 01:30 AM

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Running W7 x64 no service packs, IE 8.0 here and don't see that problem.

gxdata 04-29-2011 02:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28198)
Still broken... Screenshot here. :(

You're referring only to Lite, with IE9 browser?

The 'full' 'Napper gets the ATM ep12 for me.:) but I haven't tried Lite yet (I have Win7-64, all SPs, and IE9).

[Edit1]
My error is -
Line 281, char 3, permission denied, code 0
- different than others have been reporting, which I assume is due to UAC as I run in normal mode (not full Admin)?
Obviously the VBScript is running but I haven't tried tracing where this is happening.

[Edit2]
OK, red herring above - unblocking the .VBS gets back to an error similar to previously reported -
Line 45, Char 3, Object doesn't support this property or method, Code 0
Continuing just gives a blank window in the .HTA

Anywho 04-29-2011 03:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 28200)
You're referring only to Lite, with IE9 browser?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that IE9 is the cause of the IVNLite not working properly. I reckon MS have applied their infinite wisdom to it :eek:

mce 04-29-2011 03:29 AM

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If someone has time, can they play with IE9 security zone and/or privacy settings and let me know how that goes.

Anywho 04-29-2011 03:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 28206)
If someone has time, can they play with IE9 security zone and/or privacy settings and let me know how that goes.

I've tried using compatibility settings, turned down security to lowest (all zones) and allowed "Active Content to run on CD's" and "My Computer". Still same result.

Anywho 04-29-2011 03:57 AM

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2 Attachment(s)
Letting the debugger run with IVNLite gives these two attached screencaps of the dialogs.

st170x 04-29-2011 07:34 PM

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www.abc.net.au/iview webpage & iviewnapper full not working since Thursday 28th. Iview on the ipad has been working fine. Been lots of MS updates everyday past couple weeks for win7. Went back to IE8 from IE9 with Windows 7 & www.abc.net.au/iview now works again, but iviewnapper screen comes up but cannot fetch data for episodes. Put the latest version on from yesterday & still the same. Seems that the ABC may have changed things again. I have two windows 7 machines & one XP & all currently wont load the fetch data. Hope this helps.

Anywho 04-29-2011 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st170x (Post 28309)
Went back to IE8 from IE9 with Windows 7 & www.abc.net.au/iview now works again

You need a new flash player for IE9. I'm using Adobe "Square" for Win7/64bit and it works fine.

Quote:

iviewnapper screen comes up but cannot fetch data for episodes. Put the latest version on from yesterday & still the same.
Are you talking about the full version or the "lite" version? The full version is working fine!

st170x 04-29-2011 09:02 PM

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I am taliking about the full version from last month & also yesterdays update. It won't fetch the index to show the programs, just retries until it shows try 5 & sits there. Maybe a server issue in Adelaide I assume that each city has its own, don't know, but the problem has existed since Thursday. The Iview works ok through the ABC site & also on the IPAD.

Anywho 04-29-2011 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st170x (Post 28311)
I am taliking about the full version from last month & also yesterdays update. It won't fetch the index to show the programs, just retries until it shows try 5 & sits there. Maybe a server issue in Adelaide I assume that each city has its own, don't know, but the problem has existed since Thursday. The Iview works ok through the ABC site & also on the IPAD.

No, I'm in Adelaide so it's not "state" specific. As I showed in that screenshot, I am not having any problems with the full version (the latest or the one before it either).

Which ISP are you with? Are you sure your firewall settings (modem and/or software) are letting through RTMP connections on ports 1935, 443 or 80? (Hmmm... Even then, you should still be getting an index from iView)

st170x 04-29-2011 09:41 PM

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I managed to make it work at last, but it does not work every time I fired up the program, & will just go through to fetch try 5. But then fire it up again & it sometimes works so must be an internet issue probably with TPG. Thanks for confirming that you are also in Adelaide & that it was working fine for you.

Anywho 04-29-2011 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st170x (Post 28315)
I managed to make it work at last, but it does not work every time I fired up the program, & will just go through to fetch try 5. But then fire it up again & it sometimes works so must be an internet issue probably with TPG. Thanks for confirming that you are also in Adelaide & that it was working fine for you.

There might be an issue with TPG and iView. There's two or three people mentioning issues with that combination (see near bottom of that list at 29Apr2011).

mce 04-29-2011 10:59 PM

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I did some tests on a Virtual machine and if one uninstalls IE9 then iVNL works perfectly, whereas before the uninstall it would fail.

Something to do with the way AJAX has been implemented in IE9 and changing all the security settings in the world wouldn't fix things.

Unsure how to proceed with this now, other that to use WGET for Windows to do the fetching.

Was trying to avoid extra EXEs and all that.

gxdata 04-30-2011 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28207)
I've tried using compatibility settings, turned down security to lowest (all zones) and allowed "Active Content to run on CD's" and "My Computer". Still same result.

I did similar yesterday, not very systematically - no joy.

Is a different XMLDom used with IE9, perhaps? That shouldn't be a problem though as I see IE9 uses both this one -

Name XML DOM Document
Publisher Microsoft Corporation
Status Enabled
File date ‎Saturday, ‎20 ‎November ‎2010, ‏‎8:19 PM
Version 8.110.7601.17514

and also 6.0 and 3.0 versions

[Edit2]
I tried setting Compatibility View ON for ALL 'sites' but that doesn't fix the problem, either.
[Edit3]
Not much reported about problems with HTA apps, but this post reckons there's a problems introduced with IE9 -
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...5-364b6ce6088d

gxdata 04-30-2011 01:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28310)
You need a new flash player for IE9. I'm using Adobe "Square" for Win7/64bit and it works fine.

You're using the 64-bit browser? The default browser on Win7, 64-bit is the 32-bit one (even with IE9), isn't it?

Anywho 04-30-2011 03:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 28337)
You're using the 64-bit browser? The default browser on Win7, 64-bit is the 32-bit one (even with IE9), isn't it?

Nope. Win7-Pro/64bit/SP1, default IE9 is 64bit on mine - there is no 32bit version on it at all.

Anywho 04-30-2011 03:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 28321)
I did some tests on a Virtual machine and if one uninstalls IE9 then iVNL works perfectly, whereas before the uninstall it would fail.

Unsure how to proceed with this now, other that to use WGET for Windows to do the fetching.

What about seeing if it's a JSON format problem? Maybe try some hard-coded strings and see if it's just the "iView" JSON format or if the "For Each" is just plain busted.

gxdata 04-30-2011 07:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28355)
What about seeing if it's a JSON format problem? Maybe try some hard-coded strings and see if it's just the "iView" JSON format or if the "For Each" is just plain busted.

A few hours ago, I commented out the first For Each and found the next one (ca line 60) caused the same error.

gxdata 04-30-2011 07:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 28354)
Nope. Win7-Pro/64bit/SP1, default IE9 is 64bit on mine - there is no 32bit version on it at all.

:confused:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/...-explorer.aspx

Q: Why isn't 64bit IE the default browser? Why can't I set the 64bit version of IE as the default browser?
A: This was an explicit choice made by the IE team, which may change at some point in the future. The problem is that users might inadvertently get "stuck" using the 64bit version and not realize it. This might cause some problems.

Q: Why? What does not work properly with 64bit IE?
A: Browser addons, including BHOs, Toolbars, and ActiveX controls, must generally be the same bitness as IE itself. So, if you are running a 64bit version of IE, any site that uses, say, Adobe Flash, isn't going to work until you install the 64bit version of the addon. Sadly, almost no browser addons are currently available in 64bit versions, although that's somewhat likely to change in the future as 64bit Windows becomes more prevalent.


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