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How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

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mce	12-12-2010 01:56 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleula (Post 23620)

iViewNapper says "Fetching Episode" quickly when I try to download, however, the menu then disappears and the download doesn't commence. :mad:

Running out of ideas. 7mateNapper and SBSNapper both work fine.

Also, anybody know of a way to save downloads to another drive/directory?

I've sent you a link to the download site with the latest version on it (20101103) and you seem to be running an older version (20101014).

Please upgrade to the latest version.

At the moment iVN downloads to the programs own directory.

caleula

12-12-2010 05:31 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 23628)

Many thanks. I was thinking 4 came after 3 for the version numbers :confused:

The ability to save to another drive/directory would be VERY nice though. What do others think? :)

blood.eaglz

12-12-2010 06:51 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

the version numbers are written in reverse date format ie YYYYMMDD :) so the version you were running (20101014) was built on 14th of October 2010, while the current version (20101103) was built on 3rd of November 2010.

Wahroonga Farm

12-12-2010 06:37 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Hi Guys,

A question on the iviewnapper mp4 format.

Apologies if this question is already covered.

The iViewnapper MP4 format does not appear to be widely recognised. VLC does it, but not much else.

My LG telly does MP4 just fine, but not the 'napper' version of MP4?

By way of contrast, the ABC direct download MP4 (which is available from the ABC for certain recent screenings), is far more compatible with a wide range of players ... including my LG telly ... on a usb stick. :)

blood.eaglz

12-12-2010 08:37 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23657)

The iViewnapper MP4 format does not appear to be widely recognised. VLC does it, but not much else.

The iview mp4 is actually F4V which means its mpeg4 contents wrapped in a flv to increase compatability you need to strip the flv and remux as a true mp4

I've included my solution to this which is a couple of bat files using ffmpeg (all of 3 must be in the same directory, with the mp4s) and another zip with a cmd program called recycle.exe which need to be put in the windows->System32 folder

the remux.bat converts whatever file you drop n' drop on it into an mp4 with directly copied streams ie no reencoding (also works with plus7 flv files as they are also F4V), while the feeder.bat will go through every .mp4 file in the folder and will run them through the remux.bat.

the recycle.exe is required to send the originals to the recycle bin rather than deleting them outright in case some thing goes wrong.

lastly I suggest you get mediainfo as it is a nice quick acid test on whether the remux was successful as if it does not show data for all segments (container, video and audio) then its a dud and need to restore the original and go from there.

Obviously this is a windows based solution, and will be little use to you if you're running a Apple or Linux machine.

EDIT: forgot to mention there is another windows solution somewhere in this thread, a VBscript that also uses ffmpeg, and automatically takes care of mentioned 'problems', (which I should clarify is a bit of junk data at the end of the files, I personally use frhed to fix this, but it is almost irrelevant now as problem files are becoming rarer.)

gxdata

12-12-2010 09:23 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Interview with ABC iView's Arul Baskaran, at Lifehacker.
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/?s=Arul+Baskaran

Avoiding the DRM issues. Flash will be used for some time yet; HTML5 maybe, still some time off; PS3 / XBox support not changing much; etc.

gxdata

12-13-2010 01:08 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Request to mce at next release of iViewNapper: to add a refresh function to the catalog / main list of series / index listing (? as displayed by the Catch Up button).
The iView staff seem to update the catalog frequently, which means that to "see" ['The Midday Report'] for example, I need to quit iViewNapper and restart it a few times during a day. It's hard to predict when a show will be mounted.
With the huge number of new shows on iView, this catalog updating is much more frequent at any time around the clock.

Wahroonga Farm

12-13-2010 02:45 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood.eaglz (Post 23659)

...I've included my solution ...

Thanks very much. I'll give it a whirl.

Cheers

Edit ... And I did.

Thank you sooo much ... works perfectly.

'Ladies and Gentlemen The Rolling Stones' was tonight's very sweet treat. :)

downloader

12-13-2010 05:24 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

iviewfox is not working. Is there an update due soon?

blood.eaglz

12-13-2010 08:29 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23669)

Thanks very much. ... works perfectly.

Glad to be of help.

Wahroonga Farm

12-13-2010 05:01 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood.eaglz (Post 23678)

Glad to be of help.

Thanks again.

One more question?

Given that the Iview (Original and Remux'd version) is some 30% larger than the direct download version; is the Iview version by definition; higher quality?

Here is a MediaInfo snap of two identical episodes of Rake series One, Episode 5.

ie 401 vs 555 Kbps

Anywho

12-13-2010 09:05 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23697)

Given that the Iview (Original and Remux'd version) is some 30% larger than the direct download version; is the Iview version by definition; higher quality?

The "direct" download has a resolution of 512x288 and uses a lower bitrate.

The "remux" version has a resolution of 640x360 and uses a higher bitrate. The default of iView video on the web.

The remux version "may be" better because it is larger in resolution (more information in the image). I say "may be" because it depends on what resolution the original video was to start with.

Strictly speaking, the native resolution video will give a better image quality than one that has been up/down-scaled to another resolution. However, seeing as we don't know what the video resolution is that they start(ed) with, it is best to use your eyes to judge that (compare the two).

blood.eaglz

12-13-2010 10:06 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23697)

is the Iview version ... higher quality?

Yep, audio wise they are exactly the same quality, video wise the iView is higher.

In a technical sense the higher the bit rate the higher the quality, whether its a noticeable/significant difference is another matter altogether.
Also the resolution being higher means that on bigger displays the iview file will look better.

the problem with asking which is better is that it is very subjective and context variable with such a relatively small difference.

EDIT: Haha Anywho Just beat me to the punch.

Wahroonga Farm

12-14-2010 12:11 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Thanks Guys. :)

The "direct" download has a resolution of 512x288 and uses 401 Kbps

The "remux" version has a resolution of 640x360 and uses 555 Kbps

An Olin STB recorded version has a resolution 720x526 and uses 4739 (?) Kbps

So it appears that neither of the MP4's are in native resolution.

Here is MediaInfo for the Olin STB recording.

Anywho

12-14-2010 12:40 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23703)

So it appears that neither of the MP4's are in native resolution.

Actually, the 640x360 is actually likely to be the native...

640 / 16 = 40, 360 / 40 = 9. The 16:9 ratio is maintained.

With the one from your Olin STB...

720 / 16 = 45, 576 / 45 = 12.8... The 16:9 ratio is not maintained.

So, what I think is happening is that STB's are upscaling the 640x360 video or, more likely, the video is transmitted from ABC as prescaled-up (dimesions required for PAL-TV standard transmissions in Oz.)

[edit: Note that the 512x288 also gives a 16:9 ratio - so again, either could be the original (or neither ;))]
[edit2: It doesn't half get ugly after reading Wikipedia on the subject of PAL, 576i, and Anamorphic widescreen. Bleh!]

Wahroonga Farm

12-14-2010 04:39 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

:) :) :)

James449

12-14-2010 08:37 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

I cannot access a program called How To Be A Little S*d, presumably because of the asterisk in the name - the error reads Illegal characters in path. Is it possible iViewnapper could be enhanced so it does not try to use any illegal characters in filenames? Would be appreciated.

gxdata

12-14-2010 09:20 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by James449 (Post 23728)

The easiest solution is to use the Batch downloader, choose the show (menu choice 1), then BEFORE downloading it you need to edit the file download_list.xml (with Notepad) and change the * to o (then reads Sod), SAVE the xml file, THEN switch back to the batch file (still running) and download (menu choice 3).

I will be around (and can see this forum) for an hour or so, so send a PM or post a question here.

Anywho

12-14-2010 10:28 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by James449 (Post 23728)

I cannot access a program called How To Be A Little S*d, presumably because of the asterisk in the name - the error reads Illegal characters in path.

Hey! Thanks for this. I checked the batch file version and it was whining too (couldn't find file on the server was the resultant error message). I've fixed the batch file version now - v15.81 - with the links to it available from the Wikia page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gxdata (Post 23729)

Thank you for your support, buddy! :D

Yansky

12-15-2010 12:29 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by downloader (Post 23674)

iviewfox is not working. Is there an update due soon?

I've tested the latest version (1.1.8) with OSX and Windows 7 and it worked ok for me. Do you have the latest version installed?

If so, please give me more details about how it's not working. What happened when you click on the "Watch Program" link after selecting a show. Does the save dialog box come up? Also, what's your operating system and ISP?

Wahroonga Farm

12-15-2010 01:01 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 23730)

...I've fixed the batch file version now - v15.81 - ...

It's sweet. :)

Anywho

12-15-2010 02:13 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahroonga Farm (Post 23737)

It's sweet. :)

Thank you for your feedback! :D

ComStraker

12-15-2010 04:23 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Erm looks like illegal characters problem in Iviewnapper getting a file with "s*d" in the comedy section...by the way am a programmer, I like these programs alot and could help if someone developing them wants contact me.

gxdata

12-16-2010 01:32 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComStraker (Post 23762)

Yes, see the previous page in this forum to get the latest version of the batch downloader (15.81) until mce does the next fix of iViewNapper.

Code:

' This uses the full list of invalid characters - regex method (FASTEST)

'  aesthetics: poor 

    Function CleanInput(ByVal strIn As String) As String

        Dim sb = New StringBuilder()

        Dim invalids = System.IO.Path.GetInvalidPathChars().Union(System.IO.Path.GetInvalidFileNameChars())



        ' Build the regex

        sb.Append("[")

        For Each c In invalids

            sb.Append("\") 

            sb.Append(c)

        Next c

        sb.Append("]")



        ' this is our regex

        Dim re = New System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex(sb.ToString())



          ' Underscore is safe enough - but ugly

        Return re.Replace(strIn, "_")



    End Function

mce	12-16-2010 03:12 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Both iViewNapper and iViewNapperLite have been updated to fix the illegal character in filenames problem.

Please check the websites for the new versions (20101217).

A reload of the browser cache may be required.

gxdata

12-17-2010 06:14 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

mce, suggest you attach the same URL fetch code to the [Catch Up] button, as you would have used in the initial population of the listbox - ie, reading the series catalog by a fetch from http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/api2/?seriesIndex

batch downloader has a similar refresh capacity (I assume the URL is the same that you are using)

(otherwise, I find I need to quit iViewNapper in order to do that refresh)

mce	12-18-2010 02:25 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

iViewNapper Version 20101218.

Ctrl CatchUp reloads JSON data.

iViewNapperLite Version 20101218.

Ctrl click on picture reloads JSON data.

gxdata

01-05-2011 06:19 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Just a for-information-only post, on iView's cataloguing omissions (with thousands of shows current, it's probably getting to be more difficult for the ABC workers to track these things ).

Notice the school holiday flavour (not really my taste in shows).

Done on 05/01/2011, with Batch Downloader v15.81 with editing of the download_list.xml

timmy time 1/20-21
timmy time 1/26
peppa pig 3/9
bob builder 15/5
bookaboo 1/8
chuggington 2/12
gimme 3/1
Mister Maker 2/18
arthur 4/10

NOT FOUND: Mister Maker 2/19

Interesting that with the Batch Downloader, even though Arthur Series 4 was no longer listed, a simple edit of the xml file worked.

gxdata

01-08-2011 08:41 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

iView player (website) is OK, but the downloaders are not connecting - approx 20:20PM AEST.
:mad:
Have they changed the internals or the JSON format again? If so, how can I detect that?

[Edit]
+ 3 hours and it seems OK to download (Gardening Aust 21/46)

by-gum

01-08-2011 09:35 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

I am a newbie to this but I have some s/w development experience.

Can anyone help with iView_Downloader_OSX? I run v6.8 which fixes the problem of the ABC Index having moved, but I have also tried v6.7.3 (after updating the index bit) with the same result.

I run a PPC G5 with 10.5.8 and took the precaution of building rtmpdump using Macports.

The error is shown below.
Is the fact that the host and token are blank/empty significant?

---------------------------------------------------------
Select a number to add a show to download list, 'a' adds all,
0 adds nothing, and 's' allows you to search this list:
377

Please Select an Option
1. Add another show to the download list
2. View the download list
3. Clear the download list
4. Download the list (Always attempts to retry)
5. Convert all files in download list
6. Exit
4
Number of downloads 1
Ok, you will be requesting mp4:deep_10_01_02
and saving the stream with the filename deep_10_01_02.mp4
Retrieving Token...
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 192 100 192 0 0 1081 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
from ABC iView servers on
using the auth
Running Hostworks...
RTMPDump v2.2
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Error code 1
Sleeping for 5s
Ok, you will be requesting deep_10_01_02
and saving the stream with the filename deep_10_01_02.flv
Retrieving Token...
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 192 100 192 0 0 911 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
from ABC iView servers on
using the auth
Running Hostworks...
RTMPDump v2.2
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Error code 1
Sleeping for 5s
etc ...
--------------------------------------------------------

Note:
I am trying this because I can't get the iViewfox addon in Firefox to work - any ideas there?

gxdata

01-08-2011 09:48 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

by-gum - re your problems, when was this? If in the last hour or so, then see my previous post.

I'm using Windows downloaders, and none of them currently work with iView despite the iView player/viewer working fine with 10 separate series, approx 30 separate shows. [Edit: 2hrs later than my reply, Viiew Player is working again for me]

by-gum

01-08-2011 09:57 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

gxdata - also happened yesterday - when I first started on this journey. The index still downloads ok as of 15:57 AEST (475 entries)

Yansky

01-08-2011 10:13 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by by-gum (Post 24357)

On line 20 of the .command file change the params to:

Code:



SWFPARAMS='-w 96cc76f1d5385fb5cda6e2ce5c73323a399043d0bb6c687edd807e5c73c42b37 -x 2122 -V'

That will enable "Verbose command output".

More info: http://rtmpdump.mplayerhq.hu/rtmpdump.1.html

I remember that I had problems getting rtmpdump working on pre 10.6 OSX systems because of issues with Open SSL. I would hazard a guess that that is causing the authentication/token issues.

by-gum

01-08-2011 10:49 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Thanks Yansky for your quick reply.

Number of downloads 1
Ok, you will be requesting mp4:deep_10_01_02
and saving the stream with the filename deep_10_01_02.mp4
Retrieving Token...
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 192 100 192 0 0 1002 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
from ABC iView servers on
using the auth
Running Hostworks...
RTMPDump v2.2
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
DEBUG: Protocol : RTMP
DEBUG: Hostname : 203.18.195.10
DEBUG: Port : 1935
DEBUG: Playpath : mp4:deep_10_01_02
DEBUG: tcUrl : rtmp://203.18.195.10:1935/ondemand?auth=
DEBUG: swfUrl : (null)
DEBUG: pageUrl : (null)
DEBUG: app : ondemand?auth=
DEBUG: auth : (null)
DEBUG: subscribepath : (null)
DEBUG: flashVer : LNX 10,0,22,87
DEBUG: live : no
DEBUG: timeout : 120 sec
DEBUG: SWFSHA256:
96 CC 76 F1 D5 38 5F B5 CD A6 E2 CE 5C 73 32 3A 39 90 43 D0 BB 6C 68 7E DD 80 7E 5C 73 C4 2B 37
DEBUG: SWFSize : 2122
DEBUG: Failed to get last keyframe.
DEBUG: Closing connection.

Error code 1
Sleeping for 5s

Anywho

01-09-2011 04:58 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by by-gum (Post 24362)

DEBUG: Failed to get last keyframe.
DEBUG: Closing connection.

Delete your old "deep_10_01_02.mp4" file and try again. It's likely to be 0 bytes in size. RTMPDump cannot resume a file that is 0 bytes in length (no info for it).

by-gum

01-09-2011 05:14 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Anywho - Thanks -tried it and the error report is different:
(failed to connect socket)
-----------------------------
Number of downloads 1
Ok, you will be requesting mp4:deep_10_01_02
and saving the stream with the filename deep_10_01_02.mp4
Retrieving Token...
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 192 100 192 0 0 540 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
from ABC iView servers on
using the auth
Running Hostworks...
RTMPDump v2.2
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
DEBUG: Protocol : RTMP
DEBUG: Hostname : 203.18.195.10
DEBUG: Port : 1935
DEBUG: Playpath : mp4:deep_10_01_02
DEBUG: tcUrl : rtmp://203.18.195.10:1935/ondemand?auth=
DEBUG: swfUrl : (null)
DEBUG: pageUrl : (null)
DEBUG: app : ondemand?auth=
DEBUG: auth : (null)
DEBUG: subscribepath : (null)
DEBUG: flashVer : LNX 10,0,22,87
DEBUG: live : no
DEBUG: timeout : 120 sec
DEBUG: SWFSHA256:
96 CC 76 F1 D5 38 5F B5 CD A6 E2 CE 5C 73 32 3A 39 90 43 D0 BB 6C 68 7E DD 80 7E 5C 73 C4 2B 37
DEBUG: SWFSize : 2122
DEBUG: Setting buffer time to: 36000000ms
Connecting ...
ERROR: RTMP_Connect0, failed to connect socket. 60 (Operation timed out)
DEBUG: Closing connection.

Error code 1
Sleeping for 5s
-------------------------------

Anywho

01-09-2011 05:27 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by by-gum (Post 24374)

Anywho - Thanks -tried it and the error report is different:
(failed to connect socket)
-----------------------------
DEBUG: tcUrl : rtmp://203.18.195.10:1935/ondemand?auth=

The "iView_Downloader_OSX" is not putting the "auth" code in for some reason (a bug perhaps?). :(

Anywho

01-09-2011 05:36 AM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anywho (Post 24375)

The "iView_Downloader_OSX" is not putting the "auth" code in for some reason (a bug perhaps?). :(

Yep. I've just had a look at the source code for "iView_Downloader_OSX"... Yes, it's a bug. It's looking in the wrong place for the "auth" token. It needs to be changed so that it's looking for it here:

http://tviview.abc.net.au/iview/auth/?v2

by-gum

01-09-2011 02:25 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Anywho - progress! We seem to retrieve some data and then:

---------------------------------
....
DEBUG: RTMP_ClientPacket, received: invoke 92197 bytes
DEBUG: (object begin)
DEBUG: Property: NULL
DEBUG: (object end)
DEBUG: HandleInvoke, server invoking <_onbwcheck>
DEBUG: Invoking _result
DEBUG: RTMP_ClientPacket, received: invoke 239 bytes
DEBUG: (object begin)
DEBUG: Property: NULL
DEBUG: (object begin)
DEBUG: Property: <Name: level, STRING: error>
DEBUG: Property: <Name: code, STRING: NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound>
DEBUG: Property: <Name: description, STRING: Failed to play /flash/playback/_definst_/deep_10_01_02; stream not found.>
DEBUG: Property: <Name: details, STRING: /flash/playback/_definst_/deep_10_01_02>
DEBUG: Property: <Name: clientid, STRING: V5ugVnsT>
DEBUG: (object end)
DEBUG: (object end)
DEBUG: HandleInvoke, server invoking <onStatus>
DEBUG: HandleInvoke, onStatus: NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound
ERROR: Closing connection: NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound
DEBUG: Closing connection.

Error code 1

Anywho

01-09-2011 02:55 PM

Re: How to use iView (ABC Australia) downloaders

Quote:

Originally Posted by by-gum (Post 24382)

Anywho - progress! We seem to retrieve some data and then:

That time it looked like you were getting it from the Akamai server (usually metered downloads). Your previous attempts were from the Hostworks server (usually un-metered downloads). Anyway, this showed another bug in the script. You'll need to change the line:

Code:

"$CURDIR"/"$FLVSTREAMER" --resume -r rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net////flash/playback/_definst_/$SHOWPATH -t rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net/ondemand?auth=$TOKEN -o "$CURDIR"/"$FILENAME" $SWFPARAMS

Code:

"$CURDIR"/"$FLVSTREAMER" --resume -r rtmp://cp53909.edgefcs.net////flash/playback/_definst_/$SHOWPATH -a ondemand?auth=$TOKEN -o "$CURDIR"/"$FILENAME" $SWFPARAMS

The one for Hostworks will need to be changed from:

Code:

"$CURDIR"/"$FLVSTREAMER" --resume -r rtmp://203.18.195.10/ondemand?auth=$TOKEN -y $SHOWPATH -o "$CURDIR"/"$FILENAME" $SWFPARAMS

Code:

"$CURDIR"/"$FLVSTREAMER" --resume -r rtmp://203.18.195.10/ -a ondemand?auth=$TOKEN -y $SHOWPATH -o "$CURDIR"/"$FILENAME" $SWFPARAMS

They're the differences I can see so far between the OSX script and the Windows script.

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