[med007]

Is there a software that can capture microsoft's new silverlight?

I think it is called silverlight.

[Stream Recorder]

Is there a software that can capture microsoft's new silverlight?

I think it is called silverlight.
I thought silverlight was just a new platform including plug-ins for Windows and Mac OS that used Windows Media streams.

Have you tried any Windows Media stream recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm) on silverlight?

[med007]

did you mean WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm)?

I don't know of a video stream to test it on. do you?

[Stream Recorder]

did you mean WM Recorder?
Sorry for not making it clear. I meant any streaming video recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm) that supports Windows Media. WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm) is a nice choice for Windows Media streams.

I don't know of a video stream to test it on. do you?
Why on earth do you need to record something you have never seen?

p.s. M$ is a weird company. They use RTMP flash streams at MSN, while trying to advertise Silverlight.

[wnrussell]

Try this one from the Olympics. If anyone gets this to convert, please PM me. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=0816_hd_swb_hl_l0673&channelcode=sportsw

[Stream Recorder]

Try this one from the Olympics. If anyone gets this to convert, please PM me. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=0816_hd_swb_hl_l0673&channelcode=sportsw
Please see the following threads:
How to save Silverlight (nbcolympics.com) video?
Need some help recording from nbcolympics.com

[Stream Recorder]

There are different kind of streams that Silverlight can use, so the methods of recording of Silverlight video streams are different:

Silverlight can use regular Windows Media streams, which can be recorded with many streaming audio/video recorders (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm). One of the best Windows Media recorders is WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm) (WMR).
Silverlight can use DRM-protected Windows Media streams. Although they can be recorded with WMR, you may not be able to play the recordings due to the DRM protection. But you can use screen video capture software (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-from-screen/) to record anything you can see on your screen including DRM-protected videos.
Silverlight can use Smooth Streaming
Silverlight can use encrypted streams. The only way to record them that I know is by using screen video capture software (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-from-screen/).

[crs]

Have you tried Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4 (Jaksta (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-Streaming-Media%20Recorder-and-Converter.htm))? It supports version 1 of Smooth Streaming Media which is what a lot of videos on nbcolympics.com are streaming. Some are version 2 which I am still working on. In any case RMC 4 (Jaksta) will tell you if its version 2 and not yet supported.

Please read the following about Smooth Streaming Media and how to handle the resulting fragmented MP4 file.

What is Smooth Streaming Media?

Smooth Streaming Media is a new protocol for delivering HD audio and video from Microsoft.

Smooth Streaming provides a High Quality viewing experience as the quality of the video and audio served to the client adapts to the viewers connection speed.

RMC 4 (Jaksta) can detect and download Smooth Streaming MajorVersion 1. Jaksta will download the highest quality audio and video stream available in the streams manifest.

The resulting ISMV file is a fragemented MP4 file. The only player that can play these files is Microsofts Expression Encoder 3 (with Smooth Streaming). It also allows you to convert these files into other common formats. Microsofts Expression Encoder costs around 30 USD and is available from the Microsoft store.

[any ANONYMOUS forum user]

There are different kind of streams that Silverlight can use, so the methods of recording of Silverlight video streams are different:

Silverlight can use regular Windows Media streams, which can be recorded with many streaming audio/video recorders (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm). One of the best Windows Media recorders is WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm) (WMR).
Silverlight can use DRM-protected Windows Media streams. Although they can be recorded with WMR, you may not be able to play the recordings due to the DRM protection. But you can use screen video capture software (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-from-screen/) to record anything you can see on your screen including DRM-protected videos.
Silverlight can use Smooth Streaming
Silverlight can use encrypted streams. The only way to record them that I know is by using screen video capture software (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-from-screen/).


for the first point this type of stream can be downloaded with no problem with RMC (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4 (Jaksta (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-Streaming-Media%20Recorder-and-Converter.htm))

for the third point this type of stream can de download from jaksta but only if it is made with version 1 of smooth streaming media(i don't understand why isn't still released a version of jaksta that support also the other version of silverlight)

for the fourth point is only a question of time (see for example the rtmp sniffer rtmpdump (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/rtmpdump-freeware-console-RTMP-downloading-application.htm))

[Stream Recorder]

for the third point this type of stream can de download from jaksta but only if it is made with version 1 of smooth streaming media(i don't understand why isn't still released a version of jaksta that support also the other version of silverlight)
If you can help to mux smooth streaming v2 into MP4, please let us know.

[any ANONYMOUS forum user]

If you can help to mux smooth streaming v2 into MP4, please let us know.

first of all,the resulting file converted with the version 1 of smooth streaming is an ismv file and not a mp4 file,that thing that i not understand is that the difference between aren't many,the fragment that i sniff with wreshark aren't encript,infact with mp4 explorer is clearly visible the moof and mdat boxes...

http://mp4explorer.codeplex.com/

i don' t know the library for the source code and how to join the segment,but i think that if this has been maked for the version 1 i don't understand what is the problem for the version 2...the box ftype contain the codec avc or h264,all the other segment are easy to find...is sufficient use microsoft encoder 3 and make only a project to see that in the ismv file there only some information and all the box(2 box: moof and mdat) for each segment

[Stream Recorder]

ismv chunks differ in quality and cannot all be combined into a single file. So it is not that easy to combine those chunks and place them into an MP4 format.

[any ANONYMOUS forum user]

ismv chunks differ in quality and cannot all be combined into a single file. So it is not that easy to combine those chunks and place them into an MP4 format.

when you see the streaming to the browser then the chunks can have a different bitrate,but nobody prohibits the forced download(with a simple download manager considered that silverlight use http protocol) of all the chunks with the same and the highest bitrate(is sufficient set every url for each chunk with the highest parameter of bitrate founded in the manifest file)...now,the think that i want,and that has been implemented in Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4 (Jaksta (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-Streaming-Media%20Recorder-and-Converter.htm)) and that worked only with release 1,is the creation of the original ismv file...to the server,for each bitrate in manifest file,is present an ismv file with the same content but different resolution and bitrate.... rmc 4 (jaksta) work fine with release 1,infact build only an ismv file with the highest bitrate(contrary to that you have write,jaksta merge all the chunk in a single ismv file) ...the thing that i don't understand is why isn't possible make the same thing with release 2 or highest...finally,consider that the ismv file structure isn't the same of mp4 file structure,but this for me isn't important infact i can view the ismv file quietly with windows media player....

[Stream Recorder]

when you see the streaming to the browser then the chunks can have a different bitrate,but nobody prohibits the forced download(with a simple download manager considered that silverlight use http protocol) of all the chunks with the same and the highest bitrate(is sufficient set every url for each chunk with the highest parameter of bitrate founded in the manifest file)...now,the think that i want,and that has been implemented in Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4 (Jaksta (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-Streaming-Media%20Recorder-and-Converter.htm)) and that worked only with release 1,is the creation of the original ismv file...to the server,for each bitrate in manifest file,is present an ismv file with the same content but different resolution and bitrate.... rmc 4 (jaksta) work fine with release 1,infact build only an ismv file with the highest bitrate(contrary to that you have write,jaksta merge all the chunk in a single ismv file) ...the thing that i don't understand is why isn't possible make the same thing with release 2 or highest..
Don't know where you get these details, but you are correct :)

Ismv is mp4. Its just chunked. But that is not the issue. The issue is with the codec details sent in the manifest and which box to place them in. Can you help with that?

infact i can view the ismv file quietly with windows media player....
How do you play ISMV files with WMP?

[any ANONYMOUS forum user]

Don't know where you get these details, but you are correct :)

Ismv is mp4. Its just chunked. But that is not the issue. The issue is with the codec details sent in the manifest and which box to place them in. Can you help with that?


How do you play ISMV files with WMP?

the ftyp box is the codec used (avc or h264),the track are only 2,one for the audio and the other for the video...all the data of the box moof and mdat must be simple copy and pastes in the ismv file...the other details i don't know,but i don't think is very difficult make the ismv file...maybe there is a detail that I don't consider,but i see that the details in the manifest file of release 1 are the same of the detail in the release 2...the only difference that i see is how are managed the chunk,when major version is 1:
<c
n="0"
d="20000000" />
<c
n="1"
d="20000000" />

the attribute d(duration) of the tag c(chunk) is constant while when the major version of the manifest file is 2 the chunk are managed in this way:

<c
t="509800000000" />
<c
t="509820000000" />

for the bitrate the attribute of the tag QualityLevel are the same...

did you work in the jaksta developer team?

for windows media player i don't remember how I have maked to enable the view of ismv file,if i find the decoder file(.ax or .dll) i send it to you...maybe the view is enalbed when i setup he microsoft encoder expression 3 pro,but i'm not sure...

[Stream Recorder]

did you work in the jaksta developer team?
I contact the developer of RMC (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4 (Jaksta (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-Streaming-Media%20Recorder-and-Converter.htm)) as well as some other developers on a regular basis.

for windows media player i don't remember how I have maked to enable the view of ismv file,if i find the decoder file(.ax or .dll) i send it to you...maybe the view is enalbed when i setup he microsoft encoder expression 3 pro,but i'm not sure...
May be microsoft encoder really did the trick.

[zoldike]

Hi,
I've just wrote a CLI program in C# which can download Smooth Streaming Media and can mux it to MKV.

If you want to test my program. It is available on:
http://dvb-crew.atw.hu/applications.php
it was designed to download streams from http://www.rtlklub.hu/most/, but its engine is might useful to solve your problems too.

If you can help me, please contact me on MSN:
kissda@primposta.com

Thanks in advance!

[Stream Recorder]

Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4.0.17 and Jaksta for Mac (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-for-Mac-streaming-media-recorder-and-converter.htm) 1.0 support Smooth Streaming MajorVersion 2. Tried to download from MSN Video and other web-sites. Works fine for me.

[placebo]

Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) 4.0.17 and Jaksta for Mac (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Jaksta-for-Mac-streaming-media-recorder-and-converter.htm) 1.0 support Smooth Streaming MajorVersion 2. Tried to download from MSN Video and other web-sites. Works fine for me.

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good job everybody

[smux]

@zoldike
Hi, I'm attempting to bulid something like your ismdownloader2 for Linux. To avoid using Moonlight plugin on my browser. I've built a rough downloader, rebuild the video part and played it by Mplayer.
But I'm having problems with the audio part. The manifest indicates a WMAP codec. Can you explain which steps you follow to rebuilt and merge the audio chunks into a playable audio stream?

tks in advance

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