[EladCanada]

It seems as though CBS is slowly moving all its radio stations to stream through http://www.streamtheworld.com. These are streams that are hidden behind a Flash player and I haven't been able to figure out what the direct URL for the stream is in order to record it.

Has anyone come across these streams yet, and do you know how to find out the URL?

Here's an example:
http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WFANAM

[Stream Recorder]

I couldn't get the URL with URL Snooper so I used Proxomitron. Its log window showed the following:
+++GET 11+++
GET /WFANAM?streamtheworld_user=1&NOBUF=1163151296515&username=YOUR_USERNAME&password=YOUR_PASSWORD HTTP/1.0
Accept: */*
x-flash-version: 8,0,24,0
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Host: 64.235.213.11
Connection: keep-alive

+++RESP 11+++
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Content-Type: audio/mpeg
icy-br: 48
ice-audio-info: ice-samplerate=44100;ice-bitrate=48;ice-channels=2
icy-br: 48
icy-description: STW Mount Station
icy-name: WFANAM
icy-pub: 0
Server: STW Media Gateway 1.74a
Content-Length: 200000000
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:35:00 GMT
Connection: Keep-Alive


So we have an Icecast stream with the following URL

http://64.235.213.11/WFANAM?streamtheworld_user=1&NOBUF=1163151296515&username=YOUR_USERNAME&password=YOUR_PASSWORD

Only use the username and password values that you see in your log window of Proxomitron instead of YOUR_USERNAME and YOUR_PASSWORD above.

Icecast stream can be recorded by many media stream recorders (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm) and audio stream rippers (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream/all-streaming-audio-recording-software.htm).

I was able to record with Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm), NetTransport (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/record-streaming-video-windows-media-and-real-video.htm#NetTransport) and HiDownload (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/HiDownload-capturing-streaming-video-and-audio-downloading-movie-streams-record-Internet-radio.htm), for example.

[EladCanada]

This is awesome. Thank you so much!

I've also been introduced, thanks to the you, to the absolutely terrific Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm). I just downloaded it and it's a great little program.

[Stream Recorder]

If you want to download Icecast/Shoutcast streams only, you may use a free audio stream ripper (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream/all-streaming-audio-recording-software.htm) like StreamRipper (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream/mp3-audio-stream-rippers-grabbers-Download-live-Icecast-Shoutcast-compatible-radio-stations.htm).

Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) is great and easy to use. And it can record almost any audio/video stream. I wish it was as powerful as WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm) when recording Windows Media audio/video streams and RealAudio/Video streaming.

[EladCanada]

I like Replay A/V. It does the trick for me and since I do a lot of recording anyway it will probably work out for me.

I have another question though: Is there a way to play these streams in an audio player and not have to go through theirs? None of my players seem to be able to recognize this link.

[Stream Recorder]

I have another question though: Is there a way to play these streams in an audio player and not have to go through theirs? None of my players seem to be able to recognize this link.

I use winamp to play any music. There are some other players that support Shoutcast/Icecast streaming like FreeAmp or XMMS. You may find the list of players at Icecast.org .

[EladCanada]

I use winamp to play any music. There are some other players that support Shoutcast/Icecast streaming like FreeAmp or XMMS. You may find the list of players at Icecast.org .

Winamp doesn't seem to be recognizing that link. I'm getting an HTTP/1.0 800 Bad Request message. I guess I'll have to try one of those other players.

[Stream Recorder]

The list of media players can be found at
www.icecast.org/3rdparty.php (http://www.icecast.org/3rdparty.php)

Winamp 5 and Winamp 2.95, MPlayer didn't work for me with this stream. VLC got network packets from the server, but no audio signal was coming through my sound card.

[strike]

Would anyone be able to get the info needed to stream the radio station KROQ on winamp?

The url to the flash player is:
http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=KROQFM

[crazibri]

I just figured out KROQ and CBSPlayer's technology.
They use IceCast hidden in a flash embeded program. Basically it seems Streamtheworld uses opensource software to provide a service. Nice way to make money! :D

Anyway, I'm playing KROQ on Quicktime on my Mac by using:
icy://64.235.213.12/KROQFM

icy is the protocol for Icecast. If Winamp has a plugin, it should work too.
You should be able to run this on Windows Media player. I tried that and it worked for me.

[Stream Recorder]

I just figured out KROQ and CBSPlayer's technology.
They use IceCast hidden in a flash embeded program. Basically it seems Streamtheworld uses opensource software to provide a service. Nice way to make money! :D

Anyway, I'm playing KROQ on Quicktime on my Mac by using:
icy://64.235.213.12/KROQFM

icy is the protocol for Icecast. If Winamp has a plugin, it should work too.
You should be able to run this on Windows Media player. I tried that and it worked for me.

That was really helpful. I've changed icy:// onto http:// and was able to record it with any Shoutcast/Icecast recorder I have tried including WM Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/WMRecorder-One-click-online-audio-video-stream-recorder.htm) (doesn't have song splitting), Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) and StreamRipper (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream/mp3-audio-stream-rippers-grabbers-Download-live-Icecast-Shoutcast-compatible-radio-stations.htm).

[EladCanada]

Interesting about KROQ. If you enter that icy:// URL into your browser it'll open Winamp and play. If you change icy:// to http:// and enter in Windows Media Player it will play.

How come that doesn't work though for other stations? I tried entering http://64.235.213.41/WCBSAM for WCBS and http://64.235.213.11/WFANAM for WFAN but neither of those worked with either the http:// or the icy://. How did you find that out for KROQ?

[Stream Recorder]

I tried entering http://64.235.213.41/WCBSAM for WCBS and http://64.235.213.11/WFANAM for WFAN but neither of those worked with either the http:// or the icy://. How did you find that out for KROQ?

I just know that icy:// and http:// is the same. It is like unsv:// and http:// .

[sds910]

I just know that icy:// and http:// is the same. It is like unsv:// and http:// .

Actually, what he meant was not how you knew to change icy to http but why on earth a URL in this format works for KROQ but not for other streams from these guys (WCBS-AM, WFAN-AM, WINS-AM). I have the same issue: I can stream KROQ this way, no problem. But if I substitute the proper IP address and callsign for, say, WINS, the stream will not open. If I type any of these URLs into IE, IE offers to download the streaming .MP3 file, so I know that WINS & KROQ are at least configured similarly enough, location- and streamtype-wise, but KROQ will open in WMP and Winamp and any number of other players, but WINS will not.

Further ideas?

[Stream Recorder]

Icecast can stream MP3, AAC, RealAudio AAC ... and may be even more these days. And say streamripper wasn't able to record RealAudio AAC streams. And I bet most of Shoutcast/Icecast rippers (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream/mp3-audio-stream-rippers-grabbers-Download-live-Icecast-Shoutcast-compatible-radio-stations.htm) won't be able to record even regular AAC streaming.

[Stream Recorder]

You may get direct links to WINS, WCBS from free Replay Media Guide (http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-audio-and-video-online/Replay-Media-Guide-Find-and-Record-Online-Radio-Internet-TV-Podcasts-free.htm)

[sds910]

You may get direct links to WINS, WCBS from free Replay Media Guide (http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-audio-and-video-online/Replay-Media-Guide-Find-and-Record-Online-Radio-Internet-TV-Podcasts-free.htm)

Which doesn't really answer the question, does it? Furthermore, those links don't work EITHER. Can anyone explain why one can't get one of these stations (other than KROQ, apparently) to simply PLAY in WMP or Winamp instead of streamtheworld's rotten Flash player?

[crazibri]

I knew the IP address for the stream because when I went to the radio station's website and played it on Firefox, I kept seeing that IP being refreshed and then when I unearthed the URL address it worked better for Quicktime on my Mac.

For Windows, it seemed to work better using the URL:
http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/asx/KROQFM.asx

Perhaps this URL will fix the issue for use with other radio stations.

[sds910]

For Windows, it seemed to work better using the URL:
http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/asx/KROQFM.asx

Perhaps this URL will fix the issue for use with other radio stations.

Nope. Doesn't work at all with WINSAM. Same deal, in fact.

[crazibri]

http://64.235.213.11/WINSAM

[Stream Recorder]

http://64.235.213.11/WINSAM

Why should it be played with the WMP?
It can be recorded with software like Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm). What else do you really need?

[sds910]

What *I* need is the ability to LISTEN to the stream live without launching the stinking Flash player on their website. Continuing to post the same URL that does NOT work to do so or to ask "why" does nothing to answer the question.

[crazibri]

The URL I posted works great for me for WINSAM. I even tried it on a different computer. I'm not sure why your computer doesnt accept it.

[Stream Recorder]

What *I* need is the ability to LISTEN to the stream live without launching the stinking Flash player on their website. Continuing to post the same URL that does NOT work to do so or to ask "why" does nothing to answer the question.

Oh, really? So why do you ask your question in the streaming audio recording forum then? :D

The only thing I can suggest is to try alternative players like VLC, MPLayer or any other.

[Corith]

Would anyone be able to get the info needed to stream the radio station KROQ on winamp?

The url to the flash player is:
http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=KROQFM


What about
http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=KCBSFM

I tried icy://64.235.213.12/KCBSFM but that returns a 404 error.

[sds910]

Crazibri: The WINSAM URL will PLAY on WMP on your PCs?!? If you can confirm that, I wonder if you could assist me with some comparisons your systems vs. mine to see if we can figure out the whys and wherefores...

[crazibri]

I'm trying to get KCBSFM (93.1 JackFM Los Angeles) and I cant get it to stream in Quicktime.

I show the server as 64.235.213.21:80/KCBSFM. I've tried icy:// and http:// but both come back. When I play http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=KCBSFM and check netstat, it comes back using that IP for receiving the data.

The IP is different than KROQ (12 vs 21).

Anyone have any luck?

ps http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/asx/KCBSFM.asx file shows this as a valid IP too.
<asx version = "3.0">

<title></title>

<entry><ref href = "http://64.235.213.21:3690/KCBSFM"/></entry>

<entry><ref href = "http://64.235.213.21:80/KCBSFM"/></entry>

</asx>

[strike]

It seems like the KROQ link stopped working for trying to play it in WMP, winamp, vlc, etc...
It still works online fine at http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=KROQFM

and I analyzed the stream info and its still the same as before, which is:
http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM?streamtheworld_user=1

When I try to play the stream in winamp as usual, it not returns the error "[FLV □□]"
Not sure what this means, though FLV usually means Flash Video, so maybe there is something detecting its not being played in the flash player on the website?

[EladCanada]

I'm finding now that Replay A/V isn't even able to pick the stream URL for WCBS or WINS like it used to. I click on "Stream Capture" and then play the stream from the website and I get the URL for all the ads but not for the stream itself.

[Stream Recorder]

I'm finding now that Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) isn't even able to pick the stream URL for WCBS or WINS like it used to. I click on "Stream Capture" and then play the stream from the website and I get the URL for all the ads but not for the stream itself.

I was able to record the following WCBS and WINS stations with Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) (the links were found with built-in Replay Media Guide)
-WCBS 101.1 FM New York, NY
-WCBS 880 AM New York, NY
-WCBS Newsradio
-WINS 1010 AM New York, NY
-WINS Headlines Updated Daily

[crazibri]

Same here Strike.
I've been playing with it on Quicktime and it still doesnt work. I've tried a few different things and still no solution. I'll let you know if I find something. WMP10 same thing.

I just checked out the data I get back from the HTTP get request:

curl http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM
FLV ????
onCuePoinname
NowPlayingtypeevent
parameterArtist
The KillersTitleWhen You Were YoungAlbumWhen You Were YoungLabelUniversal/Island Def JamIMGURLIhttp://www.puretracks.com/covers/medium/ca\umg\00602517064317_130x130.jpg BuyNowURLchttp://www.puretracks.com/catalog/details.aspx?pid=umg_00602517064317&ReferralID=cbs&ReferralID=cbsTypeMUS

[crazibri]

I also found this:
http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/KROQFM.pls
Its the same as the asx link I gave previously.
Same results, it still doesnt work on WMP or Quicktime.
When I open the pls in iTunes, it plays and rebuffers a lot, so thats a start.

[sds910]

I *said* there was something fishy going on with these URLS...

[Sydor25]

I've been recording Kevin & Bean on KROQ since May 23rd with Replay AV (7.20) and I haven't had any problems until yesterday. The recordings from Monday and Tuesday came out garbled.

Luckily, I discovered tonight that mp3Direct can re-encode the files, but I was wondering if there is anything that I need to change in my Replay AV settings? This is the URL that I have been using: http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM?streamtheworld_user=1&NOBUF=1165964154328&username="e-mail address"&password="my password". Let me know if anyone finds a new URL to use.

Here is the audio that Replay AV records: Original Replay Audio (http://sydor25.com/Music/Original-001.mp3)


Here is the audio after mp3Direct re-saves the file: mp3Direct Re-save (http://sydor25.com/Music/mp3direct-001.mp3)


Does anyone have any ideas?

[Stream Recorder]

I've been recording Kevin & Bean on KROQ since May 23rd with Replay AV (7.20) and I haven't had any problems until yesterday. The recordings from Monday and Tuesday came out garbled.

Luckily, I discovered tonight that mp3Direct can re-encode the files, but I was wondering if there is anything that I need to change in my Replay AV settings? This is the URL that I have been using: http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM?streamtheworld_user=1&NOBUF=1165964154328&username="e-mail address"&password="my password". Let me know if anyone finds a new URL to use.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I tested your URL with Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) 8 and I really received a garbled audio file.

Then I used Replay Media Guide and founded the following URL
http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM?streamtheworld_user=1
for the KROQ 106.7 FM Los Angeles, CA.

The audio stream from the latter URL was recorded without any problem.

[Sydor25]

Then I used Replay Media Guide and founded the following URL
http://64.235.213.12/KROQFM?streamtheworld_user=1
for the KROQ 106.7 FM Los Angeles, CA.

The audio stream from the latter URL was recorded without any problem.


I tired that URL and this is what was recorded (still garbled):

Recorded mp3 (http://sydor25.com/Music/KROQ.mp3)

I'll try and use Replay AV 8 (demo) to see if I can get it to record normally.

[edit]Nope, this is what I got with Replay A/V 8 (it's actually worse):

Recorded mp3 (http://sydor25.com/Music/KROQ2.mp3)

I should also say that other stations record normally, it is just KROQ that is garbled.

[erwin33]

I don't record streams but listen to it. I do that with Screamer Radio (www.screamer-radio.com) you can also record streams with this software. But I noticed some stuttering streams at the moment from the CBS streams. How is that possible and is there a way to fix this?

[Stream Recorder]

I tired that URL and this is what was recorded (still garbled):

I'll try and use Replay AV 8 (demo) to see if I can get it to record normally.

[edit]Nope, this is what I got with Replay A/V 8 (it's actually worse):

I should also say that other stations record normally, it is just KROQ that is garbled.

Do you have the same problem when listening to this Shoutcast MP3 stream? If not please also try to record with other Shoutcast rippers (http://all-streaming-media/record-audio-stream/mp3-audio-stream-rippers-grabbers-Download-live-Icecast-Shoutcast-compatible-radio-stations.htm). Many of them are free.

[Stream Recorder]

The new version of Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) that is about to be released to the public works well with these new FLV encoded streamtheworld radio streams. It can properly stream-capture these station types as .FLV files, and they can be converted using the built-in Replay Converter to MP3 or other audio types.

Some stations that stream this way include:
KROQ
KYXY
KFROG

The new version of Replay A/V will also locate the stream URL for these station types.

[erwin33]

Why Replay A/V? I'm not interested in rip streams, I would like to listen to the streams. Is there another player who works with streamtheworld streams?

[crazibri]

Anyone know of a good Streaming Flash Audio player? I just tried VLC and it didnt accept the stream.

Any suggestions would be great.

I'm sure these streams will be handled by the big guys (WMP and Quicktime) in the future.

[Stream Recorder]

Anyone know of a good Streaming Flash Audio player? I just tried VLC and it didnt accept the stream.

I'm sure these streams will be handled by the big guys (WMP and Quicktime) in the future.

Try FLV Player.

WMP can play .FLV files if you install codecs. I use K-Lite Mega codec Pack. Although I haven't tried to play streaming files. It might play .FLV files streamed through the HTTP protocol.

[Sydor25]

The new version of Replay A/V will also locate the stream URL for these station types.

Do you have an ETA when this version will be release? Will it be an update for Replay A/V 8 only?

[Stream Recorder]

Do you have an ETA when this version will be release? Will it be an update for Replay A/V 8 only?

It will be an update of Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) 8. The beta version is ready so it will be released very soon.

[EladCanada]

http://player.streamtheworld.com/?callsign=CHWO

This is the same type of stream like the CBS ones. I'm trying to figure out the URL for the stream but Replay A/V 7 isn't picking it up. Could anyone figure out? By the way, which program could I use to find out this info?

Thanks!

[Stream Recorder]

http://player.streamtheworld.com/?callsign=CHWO

This is the same type of stream like the CBS ones. I'm trying to figure out the URL for the stream but Replay A/V 7 isn't picking it up. Could anyone figure out? By the way, which program could I use to find out this info?

Usually I use free URL Snooper (http://all-streaming-media.com/find-stream-URL/Project-URL-Snooper-Find-the-actual-stream-URL-Free-download.htm) to find hidden stream URLs http://sydor25.com/Music/KROQ.mp3
http://sydor25.com/Music/KROQ2.mp3

I also use Replay Media Catcher (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-Media-Catcher-HTTP-RTMP-FLV-MP3-ripper-recorder.htm) and FLV Recorder (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/FLV-Recorder-flash-video-stream-recording-software.htm) to find stream URLs from an embedded flash player.

[EladCanada]

Usually I use free URL Snooper (http://all-streaming-media.com/find-stream-URL/Project-URL-Snooper-Find-the-actual-stream-URL-Free-download.htm) to find hidden stream URLs

I've tried using URL Snooper and it doesn't seem to be working with this particular URL.

[Stream Recorder]

Yes, EladCanada, you're right. URL Snooper (http://all-streaming-media.com/find-stream-URL/Project-URL-Snooper-Find-the-actual-stream-URL-Free-download.htm) doesn't work for me on this web-site as well.

But Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) got the following URL:
http://64.34.149.241:80/CHWO?streamtheworld_user=1&NOBUF=1177528876324

Also Proxomitron (http://all-streaming-media.com/find-stream-URL/Proxomitron-Find-stream-URLs-for-HTTP-and-HTTPs-streams.htm) shouldn't have any problems here.

[EladCanada]

Yeah, that URL seems to work. But do you have any idea why my Replay A/V wasn't able to pick it up? I have version 7.

[Stream Recorder]

Try to get stream URL with free Replay A/V (http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/Replay-AV-capture-Streaming-Video-Audio-Radio-Shows-Online-TV-Broadcasts-Video-Clips-Audio-Archives-Podcasts-Free-to-try.htm) 8 trial. It should work for you. If it does then it is due to the bug fix or new feature.

[kroq_listener]

Anyone know why the stream doesn't seem to play normally anymore? I can't get KROQ to not skip incessantly unless I use the Flash player version. Is this some sort of protection they've added to the stream?

[crazibri]

Yes that's true. Streamtheworld has some sort of private encoding algorithm that uses the flash player's streaming capabilities (FLV format). I havent been able to get around it, but I havent spent any time trying to so I'm still sure it's possible. Someone said a new version of VLC player could play those streams but I never tried. Perhaps its worth a shot.

[mdx]

When I listen to streamtheworld.com via WinAMP or Windows Media Player, the sound is stuttering all the time. Only the low bandwith connection is working fine.

Does anybody know how to listen to high quality bandwith without stuttering?
Any advise what to change so I can listen to it with WinAMP?

mdx

[erwin33]

This does the trick: I installed the FLV player from Moyea and enter the URL from example CBS New York and it works smoothy without stuttering:
http://64.34.251.165/WCBSFM

But I would like to no what the other http://IP/CallLetters URL's from CBS Radio stations are. For example WKRX and WWFS NY. Can you help me?

[crazibri]

http://77.67.109.132/KROQFMAAC

latest KROQ FM URL that works in VLC 1.0.0 player.